2020 Toyota GR Supra vs. 2019 Ford Mustang Shelby GT350: Which Is the Better Driver's Machine?

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Top gear tests are so stupid. In an auto trans, it'll shift. In a manual, it doesn't. Why do they even include this?

But good read, and expected result. Supra might be better for a daily, but the manual Voodoo GT350 is a better drivers car.

I'm very impressed with the roadholding capabilities of the Supra on Super Sports.
 

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My takeaway here is that the Supra is a pretty damn good car....
 

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Top gear tests are so stupid. In an auto trans, it'll shift. In a manual, it doesn't. Why do they even include this?

But good read, and expected result. Supra might be better for a daily, but the manual Voodoo GT350 is a better drivers car.

I'm very impressed with the roadholding capabilities of the Supra on Super Sports.
Correct. Drivers cars have manual transmissions.
 

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Putting a GT350 into 6th gear at 30 mph and then running an acceleration test is abuse: plain and simple. I kept mine out of 6th unless I was driving more than 65 mph. And even accelerating heavily at 65 it should be in 5th or 4th gear.

I agree a manual transmission is better for a driver's car, but smaller size and lighter weight are also better for a driver's car.
 

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Putting a GT350 into 6th gear at 30 mph and then running an acceleration test is abuse: plain and simple. I kept mine out of 6th unless I was driving more than 65 mph. And even accelerating heavily at 65 it should be in 5th or 4th gear.

I agree a manual transmission is better for a driver's car, but smaller size and lighter weight are also better for a driver's car.
I'm 100% with you on that one. Drivers car = small, lightweight, manual trans, good suspension, great brakes.
 

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Putting a GT350 into 6th gear at 30 mph and then running an acceleration test is abuse: plain and simple. I kept mine out of 6th unless I was driving more than 65 mph. And even accelerating heavily at 65 it should be in 5th or 4th gear.

I agree a manual transmission is better for a driver's car, but smaller size and lighter weight are also better for a driver's car.
It's not abuse. It just won't go. The ECU adjusts the timing, fuel, and cam advance to prevent any damage. The whole high load, low RPM damaging motor concern is so dated and no longer relevant.
 

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It has probably been noted before: the GT350 is a $25,000 car with a lot of options; the Supra is a $55,000 car. It is amazing how far the base Mustang platform can be taken. The same idea applies to C8 Corvette comparisons, it's a $59,995 car.
 

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I'm 100% with you on that one. Drivers car = small, lightweight, manual trans, good suspension, great brakes.
WRONG. A REAL driver's car has all that plus manual-steering, a carbureted motor, laughably skinny bias ply tires, non-synchronized transmission, no AC, an AM only radio, leaf spring suspension, and a crank start. Did I miss anything?
 

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GT350 should run circles around the Supra around a road coarse. Supra is not even a match to camaro ss 1le.
 

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WRONG. A REAL driver's car has all that plus manual-steering, a carbureted motor, laughably skinny bias ply tires, non-synchronized transmission, no AC, an AM only radio, leaf spring suspension, and a crank start. Did I miss anything?
YEA. The point. That isn't a drivers car. It's an old TRACK car. What you are describing would pretty much suck as a daily DRIVERS car.
 

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YEA. The point. That isn't a drivers car. It's an old TRACK car. What you are describing would pretty much suck as a daily DRIVERS car.
The point was to poke fun at the notion that only this or that feature makes a "driver's" car. Anything can be a driver's car if it gets driven for the joy of driving. Drivers make the car, not the parts and pieces.
 

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WRONG. A REAL driver's car has all that plus manual-steering, a carbureted motor, laughably skinny bias ply tires, non-synchronized transmission, no AC, an AM only radio, leaf spring suspension, and a crank start. Did I miss anything?
Pfft thats for sissys get you a 250cc superkart. Thats a car
 

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