2020 Shelby GT500 discussion with R&D Ford driver Billy Johnson!

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  1. obspsd

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    I am watching this right now. Enjoy!!! Thank you Billy!
     
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    Basically Billy is saying,
    It is over 4,000 pounds.
    The carbon fiber track pack car is very very fast around a track.
     
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    I’m guessing under 4,000 lbs, but barely.
     
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    Does sound like he's been given marching orders to soften the blow about the weight, when that comes out.
     
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    Great interview.
     
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    People I trust have said a thousand times, it wont be under 4k
     
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    Ahhhhhh, but what will take it under 4k?
    Light weight forgelines
    Full exhaust removing the heavy OEM
    Remove rear seats
    Lithium battery
    Driver racing seat, no passenger seat
    Better two piece rotors
    Aluminum DS?


    Btw, does anyone know if ford used carbon fiber for the hood and trunk? I know this is a gt500, but that's one of the nice things about mustangs. Mod to your hearts content!
     
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    Its composite, but no CF on the front end.
    The DS is CF, so is aluminum going to be lighter?
     
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    Which version?
     
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    This was before the CFTP was officially announced, so i suspect the base?
     
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    I would say so, but who knows. Ford is keeping the weight a secret..... so..
     
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    Track will be under 4,000 3814
    Base has to be under 4,000 3978

    Why do you think this thing took so long? Not like they were learning about superchargers the whole time.


    Ford has some smart guys. They know there is no replacement for Mass Displacement.
     
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    if you think the base is going to weigh that, you'll be sad.
     
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    My bad, I didnt know it had cf. Makes sense since last gt500 had cf.
     
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    Thanks for the share guys and glad you enjoyed the interview!
     
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    I figure maybe I should just loose about 50 lbs , that may help! Seriously though, does it really matter to most people? There will be a handful that will benefit as they will race the car, most people just think the car is cool as hell and will just love driving it, myself included.
     
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    Thanks...that was a great interview!




    Every manufacturer deals with each platform to the best of its abilities. The S550 was designed to be a world platform with many applications - similar in nature to what Porsche does with the 911 variants. Yes, the S550 chassis is not the most optimal track car in its production form due to weight, but Ford could certainly make it much lighter similar to what Porsche does with the GT3. However, everything has a cost. Instead of a huge weight reduction program with CF, Ford attacked it in other ways to make the car competitive, especially when it competes with cars much more expensive. It will use more pads, gas, and tires than my GT3, but it costs half the price! They get the job done in different ways.

    I am sure Ford can make a cheaper version of the Ford GT and compete in the higher end market with Porsche, Mclaren, Audi, etc., but that will hinder the development/resources needed to make the GT500 in the future. The GT500 is super car performance at a bargain price at around $80k, and people are still complaining.
     
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    Sweet video.

    I still laugh when people complain about how much the GT500 weighs, or how a 2018 Mustang GT weighs 3,800lbs. Corvettes are not lightweights:

    C7 ZR1 - 3,680lbs

    C7 Z06/Z07 - 3,524lbs

    2LZ M7 Z07 Coupe - 3,546lbs:
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    C7 Z06 - A8 with just a tick over half a tank is 3,510lbs with no driver:


    2016 C7 Z06/Z07, manual transmission, 3/4 tank fuel - 3,506lbs.
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    There's no way a supercharged 3,800lb S550 chassis is going to weigh as little as a 3,680lbs ZR1. A supercharger is at least 100-150lbs added on to a 3,650lb radio-less GT350R, add a radio, heavier brakes, heavier wheels, heavier wing, bigger coolers, heavier tranny, and I doubt it will be under 4,000lbs. Even more for the base car. Even if the car had carbon fiber wheels, hood, fenders, doors and trunk, it would not be anywhere near as light as a C7 ZR1. I don't know how you could think otherwise.
     
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    That 2016 c7 is going to be 600lbs lighter. That's a massive amount
     
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