2020 Shelby GT500 and GT350 Dealer Allocation

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    I don't think Ford ever made an announcement that GT350 production would be limited to two years. People just assumed that the car might be limited to a short production run. I think if the car hadn't been so terrific it might have been limited more, but since so many people ended up wanting to buy a GT350, Ford kept making them.
     
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    Right... :crackup:
     
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    I agree and read it exactly the very same way as you.

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    How many GT350 R Mustangs were built per year since 2015 ?
     
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    For the first 4 MY's there were the following number of R models produced:

    Electronic Package - 2003
    Base Cars - 135
    Total - 2138

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    The two-year production of the GT350 was Fake News spread in the Mustang community by some dealers trying to justify charging ADMs. Then reinforced by the people who paid them to feel better about their purchase. People just assumed it would be like the Boss 302 which clearly was an incorrect assumption. Instead, it's been more like the GT500 product during the S197 platform.
     
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    Some floozy edited last year's slide and paid no attention to (likely) obsolete graphics. You have to remember, the people who edit Powerpoint slides are rarely very intelligent nor scrutinize the resulting product with due care.
     
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    Why would they? Quite a few dealerships don't have the market to support specialist models if they even "carry" the Mustang beyond the EB. Sure, $2000 is a rounding error and not an imposition on any dealership's finances. But if they can potentially "only get 1 of each" there's little point. I would be surprised if much more than half of dealerships sign up for the program. Or if they "all" do, then it's under the assumption they'll use the cars for "marketing" purposes and a means of getting foot traffic in the door with the hope of selling them one of the bread and butter models.

    We don't know what the dealer holdback and floor financing rates (and insurance) is for having them in the show room. These are bigger financial considerations than the enrollment "fee".
     
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    Even if the dealers' local market isn't good they most likely can sell the GT500 to a dealer in California for $5k + over MSRP.
     
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    That should likely be read as 'up to' and subject to demand trend. If there is enough demand early-on to indicate 850 or even 900 units can be sold, Ford will likely update their order pipeline in order to produce the extra parts subject to whatever covenants they have with parts vendors. But if too few people order an 'R' (say only 400 worth) then 2400 non-R can be produced and sold and any 'R'-specific parts that were ordered in excess will be carried over to next MY.

    In industry a minimum production run is often 1000 units. For 'R' parts they might have covenants of initial order = 500, and successive increments of 300. 800/2800=.285 which is close enough to 30% to likely been rounded up for marketing slide purposes.
     
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    I doubt that was the case at all and suggest that Ford was very happy to keep the "Boss 302" nameplate on those graphics just as they continued to display "50 Years Of Mustang" on those same graphics as well.

    The Boss 302 name continues to be very hallowed ground at Ford's corporate headquarters in Michigan ( and at Multimatic Motorsports for that matter) especially with such instrumental personnel as Dave Pericak and Jim Farley along with many of their other peers therefore the Boss 302 name still carries a lot of passion and weight in Dearborn therefore they will continue to display that name for many years to come.

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    Most any dealership would be able to turn a GT500 in no time including small and remote dealerships and probably more than MSRP especially based on the initial demand for the 2020MY.

    Can you imagine a small town dealership being allocated a CFTP car based on the Ford lottery system as those ~1250 cars will be sought after and coveted by individuals all over North America. That would be hitting the jack pot for any dealership let alone one of the small guys.

    With financing money still relatively cheap these days financing a ~$65,000 vehicle can be had for ~$190.00 a month therefore I don't see financing a GT500 or a GT350R being an issue at this point.

    The $1000 enrollment fee for each vehicle is also a no brainer especially on a GT500 allocation as that car would be gone prior to hitting their showroom floor.

    Just the foot traffic alone that a GT500 would bring in would be worth the price of admission subject to keeping the car around for any length of time.

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    I'm a little confused. ~$190 a month for a $65K car. Even at 0% and 84 months, $190 a month only gets you $16K of car. I think you are off by a factor of 4 or 5.
     
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    So, Ford only produced about 500 GT350 R Mustangs per year and now they may produce 840 GT350 R Mustangs for model year 2020. That is almost double the number produced in prior years. I think Ford has finally listened to us about increasing production of the GT350 R. Yahoo !
     
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    A few years ago, a Ford dealer told me that he had to pay to enroll in the program and have one of his mechanics certified by Ford to work on the Shelbys. If that is the case, some small dealers may not be able to have a mechanic trained by Ford.
     
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    I mathed that one out real quick. Just a hair off. :bandit: :inspect: 2019-05-08_8-37-28.png
     
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    Hahaha, yeah, I'm not sure where his $199 came from, unless he's assuming a $53,000 down payment :D
     
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    Do you guys really not know about floorplan financing? It's not remotely the same thing as YOU the consumer buying the car.
     
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    Considering you can find a decent handful of 350R still new for sale, I doubt they are going to produce any more than 500. It's possible the hoopla over the GT500 will bump demand for the 350R - ie. people who can't stretch that far (perhaps in light of ADM) settle for the lesser brother.

    If the economy turns in earnest I expect numbers will crater on all three trims.
     
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    Ahh, yeah, it wasn't not knowing it so much as assuming the wrong context. I think a few of us thought he was suggesting how quickly the car could be moved (i.e., it wouldn't be a concern for a small dealer to get one) vs. the cost to the dealer themselves to have the car at their showroom.
     
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