2020 Shelby GT500 and GT350 Dealer Allocation

Discussion in 'Shelby GT500 Mustang' started by likeaboss, Apr 25, 2019.

  1. Epiphany

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    I don't see it unless it is a number of years down the road. Ford and Tremec have an understanding for the new DCT and it was no doubt impacted by volume, which is already a fairly low number of units. If, for example, a manual was introduced (along with it's respective hardware and development costs) and volume was ~50% of GT500 production, the price of the DCT goes up substantially - ensuring a premium charge for a very low volume manual as well.

    Ford has stuck with one transmission offering on their top dog Mustang for decades now. I don't see that changing. And the fact that they are publicly saying that if you want a manual transmission to simply purchase a GT350 instead....rather telling.
     
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    Makes sense, you're probably right.

    However, I also read that the new Corvette may share the Tremec DCT, if so, that would help with the volumes. For me, the lack of a manual option isn't an absolute deal breaker, but it certainly is a major drawback and curbs my enthusiasm to where I'll wait a few years to decide if I really want a GT500 or not. The plus side is that hopefully the ADMs will not be as crazy in a few years. It was brutal having to deal with the ADMs when the GT350 first came out, especially where I live.
     
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    I am actually interested in the DCT for the 2020 Shelby GT 500. I know as a Mustang Purist that it will not be as engaging as driving a mustang with a manual transmission but overall performance will be better. I am more worried about reliability issues. I have never owned a DCT car before and since this is a brand new transmission I hope it will be very reliable. I am one of those people who bought a 2016 Tech pack GT 350 so I am not new performance controversy. I am going to try and keep the GT 350 even with buying the GT 500 so maybe I can enjoy the best of both worlds.
     
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    I agree, I am also looking forward to the DCT, since I'll have the GT350R that I can take out whenever I get the itch to bang some gears. I for one think that to much R&D went into this drivetrain for Ford to spend more money on a manual. Ford has said countless times that if the customer wants a manual transmission They can buy GT350. I think the GT500 is a work of art and as a whole looks great, can't wait. Good luck to all in their pursuit of securing an allocation.
     
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    The Corvette DCT may have some similar items in their DCT but that has nothing to do with Ford's contract with Tremec. Bottom line - Ford and Tremec need each other on this one. The future has been carefully crafted here for a least a couple of years. The biggest unknown is how long the GT500 will be in production.
     
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    I think the GT500 will be in production until the next generation of Mustang is produced . I suspect Ford will offer the DCT in the GT350 in the future. Maybe in 3 or four years , Ford will have a manual trans for the GT500.
     
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    This is interesting news. I look forward to seeing on in person. The ADM game for S. Florida will be out of control. I already stated how one person at the dealer was willing to pay 150k for a GT500. I'm sure there will be others as well willing to shell out the big bucks.

    Think I'll just hang on to my GT350 for a while.
     
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    Very excited. Love both reds. I will take what dealer has in stock w/o ADM. Might (will) be wait awhile. I blind emailed all local dealers for allocation, but no response. I'm sure many in my area are willing to pay ADM.

    Is there an option for painted stripes w/o track version, wing and CF?
     
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    IIRC the DCT in the C8 will be an 8spd ZF unit, not a Tremec.
     
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    There are a lot of rich people in Florida and Southern California who will eagerly overpay for these cars. If you don't mind traveling to get the car you can get it at MSRP or slightly over. I found an MSRP Deal and a few $5000 ADM deals during my search. I suggest finding a good deal now before the ADM madness gets out of control.
     
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    I would also be interested if anyone knows the answer to the question
     
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    Found this on the internet:
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    Umm, Back on page 1.... post #15
     
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    Yeah maybe, we'll seee...
     
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    Just curious what confirmed data do you have that confirms that ~85% of all Ford dealerships in America have enrolled each year into the recent 5 year run for Shelby GT350 program let alone the upcoming 2020 Shelby GT500 program?

    :sunglasses:
     
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    The numbers are based on the stats that get released at the end of model years. On average I have seen in the stats 2500 dealer participants and about 6,500 Shelby’s made per year even though Ford said there would only be 5,000 per year and only a two year run for the new GT350s. I only brought up numbers to say that finding one at a good deal is not as hard as people think. Dealers and some people create a panic about cars like these that fuel massive ADMs. You can get GT350s at less than MSRP now. I Maine how people who paid 30k over must feel now.
     
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    Thanks for the info as I did not know that Ford released official stats as to how many dealerships participated in their GT350 program each MY and somewhat surprised that ~85% of all Ford dealerships have joined the GT350 program since 2015.

    As far as Ford producing ~6500 Shelby's per year there was only one year that met or exceeded those production numbers and that was the 2017MY with the 2018MY only producing 4357 cars not including the 21 pre-production cars built.

    I would also suggest that GT350/R production numbers for the 2019MY will again follow the 2018MY with respect to much lower production numbers than the average of 6500 cars that you speak of and as announced earlier Ford plans to only produce ~2800 GT350/R's for the 2020MY.

    Like many of us that have followed the inception of the GT350 program since the early Spring of 2015 I do not ever recall Ford Performance making an official announcement that the GT350 program would only run for a two year period as they did with the Boss 302 program and would like to know where you got that information from?

    :)
     
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    Just to clarify, the document, the way I read it, states that 30% (840) of the 2800 proposed MY2020 GT350's will be "R's".
    350R production 2020.JPG
     
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    He usually sells them to me for invoice so I’m a little disappointed lol!
     
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