2020 Mustang Shelby GT500 Definitely Not Going To Europe

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Sadly, its no surprise considering the GT350 didn't come here (officially) either. And I'm sure Ford could get it to meet emissions standards, but I expect they just can't justify the costs for what would be just a few hundred sales.

Still, there are already plenty of previous gen GT500s over here that have been personally imported so I expect we'll see a handful make their way over here as an individual import, once they start to hit the second hand market.

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Bugatti, Lamborghini, Ferrari, Jaguar, Aston Martin, Audi, Porsche, Pagani, McLaren, Mercedes, etcetera all seem to have no problem releasing cars in Europe. If the GT500 can meet CARB standards, how is it failing in Europe when this is allowed to be sold?
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As I said.........Ford could get it to meet emissions standards, but they won't because the cost of any changes required over and above the US-specs just wouldn't be worth it for a few sales.

Not mentioned here, but it would also have to pass EU Pedestrian Safety regs.........the EU S550s come with an "active" hood that pops up in the event of a collision with a pedestrian. More $$$ Ford don't want to spend.
 

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As I said.........Ford could get it to meet emissions standards, but they won't because the cost of any changes required over and above the US-specs just wouldn't be worth it for a few sales.

Not mentioned here, but it would also have to pass EU Pedestrian Safety regs.........the EU S550s come with an "active" hood that pops up in the event of a collision with a pedestrian. More $$$ Ford don't want to spend.
What I'm asking is how all of the crazy exotics and ridiculous SUVs manage to pass emissions? Also, California regs are more stringent than Europe. The biggest difference is in how US/EU handle diesel differently.
 

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Bugatti, Lamborghini, Ferrari, Jaguar, Aston Martin, Audi, Porsche, Pagani, McLaren, Mercedes, etcetera all seem to have no problem releasing cars in Europe. If the GT500 can meet CARB standards, how is it failing in Europe when this is allowed to be sold?
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Every car you mentioned originates in Europe, no export issues given EU market. Also, all those manufacturers mentioned have cars that sell north of $200k save for Porsche which you could get a 718 or 911 base. At those premiums, the return is likely better since we're talking super cars. Lastly, VW owns most of the brands (Audi, Bugatti, Lamborghini, Porsche, etc.) and can spread the cost of certification due to economy of scale. Ford likely doesn't see the benefit for certifying one car with a very limited run to begin with. They will sell far more in the US to make up for lack of exposure in Europe for the GT500.
 

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Every car you mentioned originates in Europe, no export issues given EU market. Also, all those manufacturers mentioned have cars that sell north of $200k save for Porsche which you could get a 718 or 911 base. At those premiums, the return is likely better since we're talking super cars. Lastly, VW owns most of the brands (Audi, Bugatti, Lamborghini, Porsche, etc.) and can spread the cost of certification due to economy of scale. Ford likely doesn't see the benefit for certifying one car with a very limited run to begin with. They will sell far more in the US to make up for lack of exposure in Europe for the GT500.
So the answer is that regulations don't matter when you bri...I mean spend on certifications. I don't know, sounds like Indulgences to me.
 

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Lol, was just curious why get all bent out of shape about it if it's not affecting you.
Not mad, just trying to wrap my head around European emissions standards for low volume, high performance cars. Might also be trying to get a European native to admit that they only apply for non-european cars.
 

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Interesting that Ford would ship the 500 to the Middle East. Wonder what, if any, regulations they have. One thing they have is plenty of $$$$.
 

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