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I have to congratulate Meatball on his great guess as to what a 2.3 HPP weighs. My 2020 2.3 HPP weighs 3600 pounds and Car & Driver weighed an 2020 2.3 HPP and obtained a weight of 3609 pounds. My 6sp manual 2.3 HPP has as smooth of a clutch as I have ever driven . As far as hydraulic clutches go , I think my 2.3 HPP has the best clutch. I would like to try the clutches out on the owners cars who have faulty clutches.
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I have to congratulate Meatball on his great guess as to what a 2.3 HPP weighs. My 2020 2.3 HPP weighs 3600 pounds and Car & Driver weighed an 2020 2.3 HPP and obtained a weight of 3609 pounds. My 6sp manual 2.3 HPP has as smooth of a clutch as I have ever driven . As far as hydraulic clutches go , I think my 2.3 HPP has the best clutch. I would like to try the clutches out on the owners cars who have faulty clutches.
I try a 2020 HPP without HP, that clutch is better than 2021 HPP with HP. Do you try 18-20 GT or GT350 clutch? That’s much better than EBs
 

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What boost psi do you hit with the HPP package? Is it 22psi?

Correct me if wrong

Stock,
15-17 hit 18 stock - and 22psi fp
18+ hit 20psi stock, and 22psi tuned (not sure)
20 regular eb 20 stock 22 tuned,
HPP models are 22psi?
 

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What boost psi do you hit with the HPP package? Is it 22psi?

Correct me if wrong

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15-17 hit 18 stock - and 22psi fp
18+ hit 20psi stock, and 22psi tuned (not sure)
20 regular eb 20 stock 22 tuned,
HPP models are 22psi?
HPP's seem to run about 22 psi max.
 

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so its a FP tune, with maybe a hair of difference for the 63mm turbo, it isn't much stronger really due to its limit of intercooler for safety. if it had a larger IC from stock, I bet FP could of cranked out a bit more numbers safely. maybe 23-24boost.

I think the HPP should also include ford performance catch cans too. lol
 

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Picked up my 2020 Ecoboost Premium High Performance Package May 5. Ordered it Feb 1 and it arrived at the dealer in late March. I elected to delay delivery until some of the virus lockdown had passed. Manual transmission, handling package, B&O, Safe and Smart, Magnetic paint, and Enhanced Security package. Very tight, no rattles. Panel lines perfect. Had the silver hood stripes removed. Great fun to drive in the mountains canyons east of Salt Lake.

I know it is sacrilege, but I did not want the V8. I test drove a 6 speed V8 and it was a lot of fun, but I really questioned how often I would use the full 460 HP. I felt the 330 HP of the ecoboost HPP was plenty for me and I loved how it handled with the Handling Package. But then again, that is just me.

是的,我什么都听不懂V8,但我喜欢HPP在“运动”和“追踪”模式下的声音。除了A10和Recaros之外,我还有HPP上的所有选择。(不想开自动档,我喜欢高级座位。)但这是野马最好的部分。您可以从基本租赁版本一直到呼吸呼吸型GT500随时购买。我欣赏这里看到的每个人的车,并热爱每个人对他们的野马表现出的热情。我想要野马40多年了,早在大学时代。现在我有了我想要的确切的东西,我再也无法快乐了。


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Hello, would you mind going to test drive a 2021 HPP? I tried both 2020 and 2021 and feel they have different qualities. 2020`s clutch feels better than 2021. The windows sticker shows 2021 model Engine and transmission made in U.S but the 2020`s made in Spain and China. I cant make sure is it correct, but a 2020 HPP owner should got a right answer after test drive.
 

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I have to congratulate Meatball on his great guess as to what a 2.3 HPP weighs. My 2020 2.3 HPP weighs 3600 pounds and Car & Driver weighed an 2020 2.3 HPP and obtained a weight of 3609 pounds. My 6sp manual 2.3 HPP has as smooth of a clutch as I have ever driven . As far as hydraulic clutches go , I think my 2.3 HPP has the best clutch. I would like to try the clutches out on the owners cars who have faulty clutches.
I don't know about best/worst clutch, but the 2020 HPP clutch is fine. I used it stock; it was fine. I changed out the pedal spring with a very light one (Steeda has similar), and it's fine too, just a little more effort/feel.

Maybe the problem isn't the clutch.
 

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I don't know about best/worst clutch, but the 2020 HPP clutch is fine. I used it stock; it was fine. I changed out the pedal spring with a very light one (Steeda has similar), and it's fine too, just a little more effort/feel.

Maybe the problem isn't the clutch.
Yeah, I feel 2020’s better than 2021. It just not as good as GT’s. Are you using Steeda 35lb spring now? It is lighter than stock spring? I saw CJpony said it is harder than GT’s stock which is 30lb
 

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"Hello, would you mind going to test drive a 2021 HPP? I tried both 2020 and 2021 and feel they have different qualities. 2020`s clutch feels better than 2021. The windows sticker shows 2021 model Engine and transmission made in U.S but the 2020`s made in Spain and China. I cant make sure is it correct, but a 2020 HPP owner should got a right answer after test drive."

Sorry, in Utah HPP six-speeds are as rare as Halley's Comet and to find a 2021 to compare would be amazingly difficult. Mine is the only one I have seen and I had to special order it.
 

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Yeah, I feel 2020’s better than 2021. It just not as good as GT’s. Are you using Steeda 35lb spring now? It is lighter than stock spring? I saw CJpony said it is harder than GT’s stock which is 30lb
I found a spring from a local supply house, which was slightly longer, but works well. It has about a 12-15#/in rate, which is just enough to make sure the pedal goes back to the stock static height. The stock spring is on the order of a couple hundred pounds per inch.
 

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Hi. I just ordered a 21 EcoBoost hpp with the handling package. I heard that the improved metallic brakes emit excess brake dust. Is that true? If so how bad is it? Thanks.
 

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Hi. I just ordered a 21 EcoBoost hpp with the handling package. I heard that the improved metallic brakes emit excess brake dust. Is that true? If so how bad is it? Thanks.
You heard correctly, if you obsess over it, you'll be cleaning your wheels daily.
 

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But the handling package wheels are dark gray so you do not notice as much.
 

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Hi. I just ordered a 21 EcoBoost hpp with the handling package. I heard that the improved metallic brakes emit excess brake dust. Is that true? If so how bad is it? Thanks.
Its pretty bad on my car. One week after wash and the front rim is covered in soot. 6000 miles and not improving. I may ask dealer to install GT pads at next service. My wife made the mistake of spraying tire shine on the tires and it mixed with the brake dust on rims and hardened to a nasty mess. I had to use a bottle of goo gone to get them clean again.
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