2018 GT Whipple and still waiting

[olaosunt]

PE is typically Power Enrichment. Something really strange is going on. I’m certain we were supposed to get the same cal but your description doesn’t sound anything like mine.

Does yours drive normally ?
Still kicks down ?
I only just loaded the tune last night and did not drive till I was going to the track .
I noticed it felt “soft “ on the way there(I was not getting on it ) but thought that was the new and improved trans tune .
If i shift it manually I can get it to red line .
In park /neutral or drive in auto mode (D/S) it will not rev past 4500 .
When I do the profile relearn it gets the count to 2 or 3 but it says the process is complete.
I will have my guy look over the car (CF shaft arrives tomorrow) but I wish I could find the old tune as that would confirm if it is the tune or not .
May be it got corrupted who knows.
Most frustrating!

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[engineermike]

Does yours drive normally ?
Still kicks down ?
I only just loaded the tune last night and did not drive till I was going to the track .
I noticed it felt “soft “ on the way there(I was not getting on it ) but thought that was the new and improved trans tune .
If i shift it manually I can get it to red line .
In park /neutral or drive in auto mode (D/S) it will not rev past 4500 .
When I do the profile relearn it gets the count to 2 or 3 but it says the process is complete.
I will have my guy look over the car (CF shaft arrives tomorrow) but I wish I could find the old tune as that would confirm if it is the tune or not .
May be it got corrupted who knows.
Most frustrating!

Mine drives better than ever with last week’s cal update. I tested downshifting this morning again just to be 100% sure. Steady 60 mph, go WOT, it instantly went to 3rd gear and started burning the tires. This was in “D” with TC off.

It almost sounds like your throttle response curve and limiter for N is being applied in D and S. I wonder if it did get corrupted or something. I didn’t even have to do a crank relearn.

 

[olaosunt]

Mine drives better than ever with last week’s cal update. I tested downshifting this morning again just to be 100% sure. Steady 60 mph, go WOT, it instantly went to 3rd gear and started burning the tires. This was in “D” with TC off.

It almost sounds like your throttle response curve and limiter for N is being applied in D and S. I wonder if it did get corrupted or something. I didn’t even have to do a crank relearn.

The guys at Whipple were able to send my original tune ..... all’s right again and at least I know it is not my motor .
Honestly I was okay with the original trans tune . sure it is a little aggressive with down shifting in sport mode so I just leave it in D when puttering around town .

It definitely needed a little more “oomph” down low to get it out of the hole and 60 better . That’s what the new tune was supposed to do but clearly it had some issues at least for me .

I got a chance to test the old tune again as we had decent weather today with low humidity and mid 70’s but DA was stil 1800.

I was in street trim like I drive it every day (19 SVE ‘s with MT SS 305/35’s in the rear )
Ran same ET as my previous PB which was done with 18 inch skinnies and 17 race stars /275/40 M&H drag radials so much lighter, and highest trap to date .
Stil can’t get the car to 60 and I am stalling up to 2300 rpm .
My drag set up is usually good for 1-2 mph and 0.1 better 60 ft so I may get a 10.2@139-140 with the whippe tune /3.625 pulley and 93 in good DA. That would not be bad for full weight(4300 with driver ) car /stock exhaust with cats .
I have not seen many others post times with their whippe tune / stock exhaust cars but at least now they know what to expect .
It would have been interesting to see if the new tune improves the 60 and gains any trap speed but I am running out of time as the tracks close in a month .

I am going to have my Ford tech (does all my installs) flash the car back to stock(God knows how long it will take Whipple to get me a stock file) so I can send it to PBD to start building me an E85 .Hopefully I get it done in time to run it before the tracks close

 

[engineermike]

Is 138 mph with everything stock, Whipple Stage 2, 3.625, 93+boostane?

 

[olaosunt]

Other than Billet OPG/CS.
Stock exhaust with cats .
... and CF drive shaft .... I put my faith in DSS (after the last one broke ) and drove 100 on way miles to race . Lol

I have run straight MS109, a bottle of Boostane added to 5 gallons of 98(should be 109 octane per chart) , bottle of boostane added to full tank 93 , bottle of octanium added to10 gallons of 93 and saw no difference in max timing of 18.5* , max KR -4 (-2 at full load ).

 

[TX-Ripper]

Other than Billet OPG/CS.
Stock exhaust with cats .
... and CF drive shaft .... I put my faith in DSS (after the last one broke ) and drove 100 on way miles to race . Lol

I have run straight MS109, a bottle of Boostane added to 5 gallons of 98(should be 109 octane per chart) , bottle of boostane added to full tank 93 , bottle of octanium added to10 gallons of 93 and saw no difference in max timing of 18.5* , max KR -4 (-2 at full load ).

Whipple caps the timing.

 

[engineermike]

I’ve seen 17.5-18 on straight 93 with the 3.875 pulley and low 80’s ambient.

 

[Bluelightning]

Whipple tune is capped at 18.5 max max to keep it on the conservative side. My car gets the 18.5 on 93.

 

[olaosunt]

With what pulley ?
I expect you will see some knock on the 3.625 with 93.

 

[Bluelightning]

With what pulley ?
I expect you will see some knock on the 3.625 with 93.

I'm running the 3.75 currently.

 

[PTM5.0]

I'm running the 3.75 currently.

Stick or auto? Had it on a dyno yet?

 

[Bluelightning]

Stick or auto? Had it on a dyno yet?

Stick. It's been awhile since it was on a dyno.

 

[TX-Ripper]

If you guys have access to 93 you should be running the 3.75 pulley otherwise your leaving hp on the table.

 

[PTM5.0]

I’ve seen 17.5-18 on straight 93 with the 3.875 pulley and low 80’s ambient.

In upper 80's with 100+ heat index, my car wouldn't go past 15* with my 3.875 pulley on straight 93. I'd love to drop one pulley size but I want to be able to drive the car safely in the summer.

 

[Roh92cp]

In upper 80's with 100+ heat index, my car wouldn't go past 15* with my 3.875 pulley on straight 93. I'd love to drop one pulley size but I want to be able to drive the car safely in the summer.

Boostane will get you there.

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