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That sucks, man. You were waiting forever for that car..
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G_Money_FL
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Exactly how I feel.
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None. Just the standard GDI ticks, mostly when cold. Only noise from the clutch/trans is a whirring noise when I am accelerating higher in the RPM range in 1st and 2nd. I attribute that to something with the dual mass flywheel (maybe). I will certainly take trans or clutch issues over engine issues. I am at almost 1900 miles.
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Service Advisor texted me today that I can come pick up the car. Per the field service engineer’s instructions, they didn’t replace the clutch and flywheel. I had a conference call with the service manager and the regional customer service manager and we agreed for me to come in and have the service manager drive the car to duplicate the issue (keep in mind I already did a road test with the shop foreman who heard the grinding while I was driving) and then we will compare with another 2018 6MT GT Performance pack on the lot.
The engine is still knocking and the shop foreman has opened a case with the hotline for this issue as well. They want me to take the car with me once I come in for the comparison test while they wait to hear from the hotline. I don’t plan on being dependent on a car which sounds like it’s 20 miles away from a catastrophic failure, especially when I have a 350 mile work trip this week.
The engine is still knocking and the shop foreman has opened a case with the hotline for this issue as well. They want me to take the car with me once I come in for the comparison test while they wait to hear from the hotline. I don’t plan on being dependent on a car which sounds like it’s 20 miles away from a catastrophic failure, especially when I have a 350 mile work trip this week.
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So I am currently sitting at the dealer. I have the same exact clutch grinding issue. Clutch in/out between 5000-5500 rpms and there is a grind that you can hear and feel. The tech called the Ford hotline and was advised to drive another one on the lot and compare. He also took me for a ride. It makes the same exact noise. So now the tech/dealer deems this as normal. This is not normal. Where do I go from here? Has anyone had this resolved?
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I don't think Ford will be fixing this issue going forward. It looks like engineering got involved and said it's normal, so the hotline and the dealers will be going by that with any future claims. Basically everyone with this problem is screwed. Even if it doesn't have any impact on performance/reliability, it's definitely not normal for such a big automaker to ship a car with an NVH issue like this. I'll be interesting to see if the 2019s have this problem as well.
My car has sat at the dealer for 32 days now while waiting on a flywheel/clutch in May (which won't even get replaced) and now for the engine knock, so I will be pursuing a buyback.
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You should have kept the sister car of mine. That must have been a good week.
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Same week as your original order. I wonder what changed. A lot of the shop cars out there are November/December builds, and I haven't heard of many issues from them.
G_Money_FL
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Well I've got a quick update.
I've got 3,200 miles on the clock. Car has been driven hard, but not beat on since about 500 miles.
I've got two facts to share:
- The problem is still there, and is still easily repeatable under the same conditions.
- The amount of NVH with each instance is maybe 50% of what it was when I had only 600 miles on the car.
Is it wearing in, or wearing out? :shrug: Draw your own conclusions.
I've got 3,200 miles on the clock. Car has been driven hard, but not beat on since about 500 miles.
I've got two facts to share:
- The problem is still there, and is still easily repeatable under the same conditions.
- The amount of NVH with each instance is maybe 50% of what it was when I had only 600 miles on the car.
Is it wearing in, or wearing out? :shrug: Draw your own conclusions.
5OhSilver
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My car was built in April. 2018 GT 6 speed. Mine does this too.
Edit: Some of the performance guys I know around here think this is a common characteristic of a twin disc clutch. They are very noisy. In fact they are surprised it doesn't make more noise under different circumstances. This isn't an exact quote but from what I gathered is that a slight noise during shifts is normal because of the twin discs. Something along the lines of "the discs float when not under pressure (clutch disengaged) and then they both engage at very slight different times as one catches and the other is still floating and tries to catch up."
Edit: Some of the performance guys I know around here think this is a common characteristic of a twin disc clutch. They are very noisy. In fact they are surprised it doesn't make more noise under different circumstances. This isn't an exact quote but from what I gathered is that a slight noise during shifts is normal because of the twin discs. Something along the lines of "the discs float when not under pressure (clutch disengaged) and then they both engage at very slight different times as one catches and the other is still floating and tries to catch up."
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BLU2DSKY
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My issue has gotten worse. It used to grind at above 5500 RPM. But now I feel a grind over 3000 and maybe even 2500, no noise though. If that is a normal twin disc clutch characteristic, then that's whack.
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