That was my understanding, too. At the very least, Ford owns the patents on the 10-speed; though, I would expect Ford and GM to supply their own, respective transmission tuning.
I would feel that way if I were using the car to race for money and make a living with it, but since I buy cars purely for my own personal enjoyment, I would rather have a car that sounds good - even if it isn't the fastest. I hope the car manufacturers listen and make smaller V8s rather than going to 6 cylinders.
Same here, I buy cars (like many other things I purchase) for an overall ownership experience. Some of that comes from objective performance numbers, but just as much comes from the "vibe" of the car, and that includes things like the sound.
I cant answer that right now because I don't have one. But we all know how well the 8speed trannys are making the 2016 Camaro SS, and Challenger/Chargers perform. The new SS is as fast as it is BECAUSE of the A8... the manual is nowhere near as fast. More gears keep the car in its powerband longer.
Negative. The Camaro SS is faster because it is lighter and has more horse power. You'll use the same 4 gears in a race with the A6 as you would with an A8. Look up the ratios by gear for both transmissions if you don't believe me.
I would need to locate the 10 speeds specs but, I can only assume there are limitations on the transmission. GM and Ford both typically designed their previous autos for that specific model/engine and GVWR.
With all due respect....so what? I've been running HPDE's for the last twenty years and have yet to see anyone "win". Or collect any money.
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I'm not trying to be argumentative (and being a Mod, I have to set a good example
Could the following not be true:
1 - The ZL1 may actually arrive with MORE than the currently stated 640hp? (remember what Dodge said before the Hellcat was officially rated.....it would be "at least 650hp" and that ended up as a 707 (underrated) by the time it hit the streets
2 - Who's to say, just because GM have launched first, that the 10-speed auto is limited to 640hp? As I say, the ZL1 may be rated higher at launch......or perhaps GM wants to artificially keep the power below the Corvette, for now at least.
3 - Whilst the underlying hardware of the 10-speed will be the same, both GM and Ford will have their own varying parameters for each application.
4 - OK this one's obviously light hearted......but if Ford developed the 10-speed, perhaps that set it up to handle well over 700hp for themselves, but limited it to 650hp for GM
As I say, I'm not trying to be argumentative, I'm just really interested in how "shared development" like this actually works. What are the pros and cons etc
Sure, anything is possible...I'm not trying to be argumentative (and being a Mod, I have to set a good example
Could the following not be true:
1 - The ZL1 may actually arrive with MORE than the currently stated 640hp? (remember what Dodge said before the Hellcat was officially rated.....it would be "at least 650hp" and that ended up as a 707 (underrated) by the time it hit the streets
2 - Who's to say, just because GM have launched first, that the 10-speed auto is limited to 640hp? As I say, the ZL1 may be rated higher at launch......or perhaps GM wants to artificially keep the power below the Corvette, for now at least.
3 - Whilst the underlying hardware of the 10-speed will be the same, both GM and Ford will have their own varying parameters for each application.
4 - OK this one's obviously light hearted......but if Ford developed the 10-speed, perhaps that set it up to handle well over 700hp for themselves, but limited it to 650hp for GM
As I say, I'm not trying to be argumentative, I'm just really interested in how "shared development" like this actually works. What are the pros and cons etc