15-17’ Ford performance pack 1 vs 2

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No one has posted the FRPP1 tune. I have been looking for a few years. You will need a MPVI2 to read it and save the file.
So just the PP2 and PP3 have been there? I've got the PP1 loaded on my car and have been thinking about getting a HP device to make a few minor changes. So I'd be in for $400 for the device and $50 a credit for every time I want to make a change? I'd bet you're the guy to talk me through the changes.

 

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You only buy the credits once. Unlimited flashes to the Vin the credits are bought for.
 

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You only buy the credits once. Unlimited flashes to the Vin the credits are bought for.
That makes it a lot easier to swallow. To start I'd like to raise the rev limiter to give me a larger buffer so I don't have to worry about hitting it. I think making the airflow and voltage adjustments needed to adapt the FRPP PP1 to work with the 18+ intake manifold, I've got both a 18+ F150 and 18+ Mustang sitting in the closet to chose from, is beyond my knowledge and comfort zone There's a MVPI2+ too I see now but I think the only difference is upgraded transfer speed from USB-C vs micro-USB and upgraded Bluetooth technology.
 
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Yes, the + is for bluetooth and stand alone logging. There is a MPVI3 coming out soon. I don't care about stand alone logging. It dosen't really work with SCT either. The pro tools incorporated with the MPVI3 are a good thing. Not sure on the pricing.

My MPVI2 without + is USB C. Takes about 3 minuets for a full write. 1 min or less for a cal write only.
 


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Edit: also, even though gt350 intake and tb are bigger diameter the air still gets into standard diameter intake manifold. So to me it is half gimmick.
Well, isn't the thing with the GT350 manifold that it has different runner geometry and thus higher velocity air is getting into the heads? The real limitation is valve lift and duration until you're hitting a certain point. I mean, ALL of it has an effect, but I wouldn't call the manifold even half a gimmick.
 

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What fuel were you using? After tuning on Octane Adjust what did you set it to?
California 91, the worst. I just flipped OA “on”. Goes to a less aggressive timing table but can still advance until the onset of knock.
 

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Well, isn't the thing with the GT350 manifold that it has different runner geometry and thus higher velocity air is getting into the heads? The real limitation is valve lift and duration until you're hitting a certain point. I mean, ALL of it has an effect, but I wouldn't call the manifold even half a gimmick.
G350 Intake manifold is not included in Power Pack 2. That's PP3.

PP2 has an intake, gt350 throttle body and an adaptor to GT manifold.
 

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California 91, the worst. I just flipped OA “on”. Goes to a less aggressive timing table but can still advance until the onset of knock.
For me that switch made things better (on 91) but the knock was still there.
 

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California 91, the worst. I just flipped OA “on”. Goes to a less aggressive timing table but can still advance until the onset of knock.
I use nothing but Shell 91 and have not ever heard any knock (detonation). Have run Chevron 91 in the long past with no indication of knock but Chevron and I had some issues when I worked for one of their marketers, so I no longer buy any of their products.
 

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Yes, the + is for bluetooth and stand alone logging. There is a MPVI3 coming out soon. I don't care about stand alone logging. It dosen't really work with SCT either. The pro tools incorporated with the MPVI3 are a good thing. Not sure on the pricing. My MPVI2 without + is USB C. Takes about 3 minuets for a full write. 1 min or less for a cal write only.
It looks like the 2+ and 3 are going to be the same price, $399 plus $100 for the required two credits, so I might as well be wait a month for the 3 to come out. I'll definitely send you the PP1 for reference when I get it.
 

 
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