Norm can find the most esoteric reasons for manual transmissions! I expect to read about how he enjoys how the phases of the moon effect the feel of the clutch pedal.Barking up the wrong tree. Norm still waxes nostalgic over carburetors and crank starts
I’m still trying to imagine why an owner with a MY08 is spending his time on this forum.Barking up the wrong tree. Norm still waxes nostalgic over carburetors and crank starts
But you actually have it wrong. With the A10 you can be 100% auto and just enjoy or hate the Ford programing. Or you can manually shift the A10 even in the highest sport mode and basically shift your car with your fingers instead of clutch and arm on stick shift. The performance advantages are unquestioned. I'm racing only and the A10 is so smooth shifting in manual mode that often I can't feel or hear if it has shifted upon command. The A10 is smooth as buttah! It has protections in it that prevent harm to engine and I'm 100% convinced that this is the source of complaints about not shifting on command in manual mode. When a driver is at his limit many things going on diving into a corner he may command a downshift when the resultant rpm is not allowed. He may think he should be able to shift but he isn't looking at the RPM dial because he is target fixated on the corner! We are also used to the range of acceptable RPM with fewer 5 or 6 gears. The 10 speed is defacto close ratio and that demands a better driver to optimize the benefits of that closer ratio.
Know what? I'd defy it to guess how enthusiastically I was about to drive. And like I said, hard shifting would be a hard no (how many modes would that affect?).
No, not that far back. I'd really rather tinker with laptop-tunable EFI than mess with carburetors/points/condensers. Done both.Barking up the wrong tree. Norm still waxes nostalgic over carburetors and crank starts
I don't think I could even bring myself to run an AT in a fully automatic mode. Seriously.
I could have told you all that at least 55 years ago, except for the '10' part of A10 anyway.
That's exactly my goal for shifting a MT. Every shift, whether on the street or at the track. But I want to have it on me to make it happen, not have it handed to me on a silver platter for the price of touching a glorified microswitch.
I can see this easily happening with the A10 or with a DSG, especially if the driver has a lot of seat time driving them in a full automatic mode where he need not pay any attention to what rpm the engine is turning.
I get this . . . The middle gears on the 10R80 average something like 1.20:1 spacing, which is more like a motorcycle (and too many gears for any reasonable H-pattern shifting). Sequential or conventional automatic are the only ways that make sense. Dunno, maybe I'll run a comparative acceleration sim starting from some corner exit speed and ending at the distance to the next braking zone.
As long as the ECU doesn't stumble, its guesses have to be considered "close enough". You wouldn't be able to do what an ECU (or a carburetor and points/condenser ignition, for that matter) does in real time like you can with choosing what gear to engage next and how smoothly or harshly you want to engage it.
Because I believe that exposure to cars you don't own (but might in the future) is a good thing. And some things translate to the newer cars that you learned from your time with the older ones.
Every time he posts on a Manual vs Auto thread I just hear "Hey kids, get off my lawn!"Barking up the wrong tree. Norm still waxes nostalgic over carburetors and crank starts
Nawwwww that would be the death of the internet.
Nah, we have to argue so everyone feels better about their own insecurities. Lol
At least when you go on the WRX forums and extoll the virtues and zen experience of the manual transmission, you won't get any argument.