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Im not sure if anyone actually cares so ill be brief unless some one asks
Costs
10.2(Horizontal) Ebay 472
10.4(Tesla Gen 2) GB 610
Install
Telsa Gen 2 is easier to install its an all in one unit, It doesnt use any stock components so the hardest part is getting off the trim.
10.2*Has a brain and a screen as well as a small unit for the canbus. It also reuses the stock board for the AC and stuff. You have to remove the volume and tuner buttons from the board. They include a soldering iron for that but its 220 volt so its useless. You will most likely end up just cutting the peices off so there is no going back unless you find another board.
Support
These units have no real support, if it doesnt do what you want out of the box it probably never will. Some get update periodically I dont know where they come from though lol
Software
I bricked my Tesla unit. Neither unit appears to have access to recovery so making any real changes to them via root or modding is extremely dangerous. This may change
The tesla unit has a skinned interface, where the 10.2 is more of a stock android.
Tesla was 4.4.4 (I think there is a 5.x update) the 10.2 is 6. The software on the 10.2 is much more mature. If you switch to english there is almost no chinese. Additionally the Tesla has random issue with some apps because of the way they implement the aspect ratio / dpi.
On the Tesla unit if you want to the radio you have to use the stock apps, if you switch to non stock app like waze the radio stops. No a big deal but annoying
The 10.2 boots faster 20 seconds vs 40. While booting on the 10.2 unit you will get the last radio station you have on and will have volume control, you will not be able to change stations. 10.2 Can be set to stay on after the car is turned off for a duration of time. The screen will stay off but the unit will stay in the back ground a nice touch. I didnt see this on the tesla.
Tesla unit had a setting for screen brightness but on my unit I didnt do anything. 10.2 has your normal slider for brightness
Bluetooth
Both units have a skinned implementation of Bluetooth
Tesla unit will only pair with a phone, you can play music from your phone in the skinned apps if you move to a non skinned app it will stop. You can not pair a OBD II bluetooth dongle or a GPS.
10.2 will pair with a bluetooth ODB II, and a bluetooh GPS. The problem is the Bluetooth only seems to be active when running torque (comes installed). I can get the bluetooth GPS to work for brief times but its finicky. (the unit has a internal GPS I want to use a external to track my lap times)
Neither has a bluetooth section in the settings. I have no idea why they did this -.-
Hardware
Tesla (mine) has 2G ram 32 GB storage, 10.2 1G/16 (why??)
I believe both basically have the same screen resolution 1024X600.
I am not sure what processor is in each I believe the 10.2 units one is better
Tesla unit has 1 USB, the 10.2 has 2 (I have a usb stick and a 1G HD connected)
IMHO the 10.2 has a much better screen, it also has buttons next to the screen for Volume,Home,Mute, and Ejecting the CD
OH 10.2 has a DVD player that works!! (Who has DVDs?) lol.
Wifi is better on the 10.2 then the tesla(gen 2) though both are bad.
The 10.2 rear view camera is zoomed in for some reason. When I shut it off it looks right for a second. I can see no way to fix this it. I will ask the Tesla guys to pull the APK for the video viewer on the tesla unit. This works fine on the Tesla unit.
Both units have a bunch of camera inputs. I tried the two on the 10.2 and they worked but the quality was bad.. Might of been zoomed.
Performance
YMMV
I found both units performance adequate. To me the 10.2 Unit performs better, My tesla unit in Waze and google maps performed pretty badly, they were functional but barely. I like to have waze running back ground for Cop alerts, tesla unit would unload waze pretty much immediately. I have not tested this with the 10.2 yet.
The 10.2 will play MT2S (bluray) files of a USB stick, never tried it with the tesla.
Summary
IMHO the 10.2 Unit is better then the Tesla. The aspect ratio lends it self better to movies,youtube, and apps in general. The big down side is the lack of memory. It reuses your stock hardware so there is no easy back out. (buying the stock board is 100 to 200 on ebay)
The difference is small so it really depends on what you want to do with it.
I am very hesitant to recommend products that have no support most of these devices are sold through re-sellers at a large mark up.
Costs
10.2(Horizontal) Ebay 472
10.4(Tesla Gen 2) GB 610
Install
Telsa Gen 2 is easier to install its an all in one unit, It doesnt use any stock components so the hardest part is getting off the trim.
10.2*Has a brain and a screen as well as a small unit for the canbus. It also reuses the stock board for the AC and stuff. You have to remove the volume and tuner buttons from the board. They include a soldering iron for that but its 220 volt so its useless. You will most likely end up just cutting the peices off so there is no going back unless you find another board.
Support
These units have no real support, if it doesnt do what you want out of the box it probably never will. Some get update periodically I dont know where they come from though lol
Software
I bricked my Tesla unit. Neither unit appears to have access to recovery so making any real changes to them via root or modding is extremely dangerous. This may change
The tesla unit has a skinned interface, where the 10.2 is more of a stock android.
Tesla was 4.4.4 (I think there is a 5.x update) the 10.2 is 6. The software on the 10.2 is much more mature. If you switch to english there is almost no chinese. Additionally the Tesla has random issue with some apps because of the way they implement the aspect ratio / dpi.
On the Tesla unit if you want to the radio you have to use the stock apps, if you switch to non stock app like waze the radio stops. No a big deal but annoying
The 10.2 boots faster 20 seconds vs 40. While booting on the 10.2 unit you will get the last radio station you have on and will have volume control, you will not be able to change stations. 10.2 Can be set to stay on after the car is turned off for a duration of time. The screen will stay off but the unit will stay in the back ground a nice touch. I didnt see this on the tesla.
Tesla unit had a setting for screen brightness but on my unit I didnt do anything. 10.2 has your normal slider for brightness
Bluetooth
Both units have a skinned implementation of Bluetooth
Tesla unit will only pair with a phone, you can play music from your phone in the skinned apps if you move to a non skinned app it will stop. You can not pair a OBD II bluetooth dongle or a GPS.
10.2 will pair with a bluetooth ODB II, and a bluetooh GPS. The problem is the Bluetooth only seems to be active when running torque (comes installed). I can get the bluetooth GPS to work for brief times but its finicky. (the unit has a internal GPS I want to use a external to track my lap times)
Neither has a bluetooth section in the settings. I have no idea why they did this -.-
Hardware
Tesla (mine) has 2G ram 32 GB storage, 10.2 1G/16 (why??)
I believe both basically have the same screen resolution 1024X600.
I am not sure what processor is in each I believe the 10.2 units one is better
Tesla unit has 1 USB, the 10.2 has 2 (I have a usb stick and a 1G HD connected)
IMHO the 10.2 has a much better screen, it also has buttons next to the screen for Volume,Home,Mute, and Ejecting the CD
OH 10.2 has a DVD player that works!! (Who has DVDs?) lol.
Wifi is better on the 10.2 then the tesla(gen 2) though both are bad.
The 10.2 rear view camera is zoomed in for some reason. When I shut it off it looks right for a second. I can see no way to fix this it. I will ask the Tesla guys to pull the APK for the video viewer on the tesla unit. This works fine on the Tesla unit.
Both units have a bunch of camera inputs. I tried the two on the 10.2 and they worked but the quality was bad.. Might of been zoomed.
Performance
YMMV
I found both units performance adequate. To me the 10.2 Unit performs better, My tesla unit in Waze and google maps performed pretty badly, they were functional but barely. I like to have waze running back ground for Cop alerts, tesla unit would unload waze pretty much immediately. I have not tested this with the 10.2 yet.
The 10.2 will play MT2S (bluray) files of a USB stick, never tried it with the tesla.
Summary
IMHO the 10.2 Unit is better then the Tesla. The aspect ratio lends it self better to movies,youtube, and apps in general. The big down side is the lack of memory. It reuses your stock hardware so there is no easy back out. (buying the stock board is 100 to 200 on ebay)
The difference is small so it really depends on what you want to do with it.
I am very hesitant to recommend products that have no support most of these devices are sold through re-sellers at a large mark up.
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