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Hey guys, currently have a 19 on order. while the waiting sucks, its giving me some time to do some research and planning. I want to boost the car soon after i get it, and have been debating on which route to go.



I am leaning towards twin turbo or whipple, but am open to any input on what you guys have seen/experienced with others.


Each has pros/ cons, just trying to figure which are going to be the best. The car is a 10R80, PP1 and will be a daily driver.


The twins seem to be most efficient for hp/tq per lb of boost, but also the most expensive. The midnight performance car is the fastest of the 18's thus far as well i believe, all done on stock motor and trans.



Whipple seems to be most efficient on the supercharger end of things, and IMO looks the best, and still decently high price.



Centri's have IMO one of the best/coolest sounds, and from what i see are making killer power on the gen 3 coyotes, also look to be the most affordable option.


Like i said, just trying to get a plan together on which to go with. Thanks in advance for the advice!
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They all get the manifold pressure you're wanting different ways. I don't disagree with anything you've written. I've done centris, I've done Whipples. I've not done turbos. If you want ridiculous torque - top power - go TT and call it good. Price is deceiving - T Tis expensive upfront but you're not constantly changing pulleys, crank pulley diameters, belts, or installing headers etc which is at least a grand savings right there. A good kit and a great tuner and you're limited by engine internals. More heat? Yeah for sure. More power? You're not going to beat the efficiency of turbos.

I love my Whipple. But TT is ridiculous and I think people forget the long term added costs changing things up or adding parts to wastegate centris, etc. I'm toying with doing a TT next time. I've seen some REALLY fast street turbo cars. It just depends what you want!
 
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They all get the manifold pressure you're wanting different ways. I don't disagree with anything you've written. I've done centris, I've done Whipples. I've not done turbos. If you want ridiculous torque - top power - go TT and call it good. Price is deceiving - T Tis expensive upfront but you're not constantly changing pulleys, crank pulley diameters, belts, or installing headers etc which is at least a grand savings right there. A good kit and a great tuner and you're limited by engine internals. More heat? Yeah for sure. More power? You're not going to beat the efficiency of turbos.

I love my Whipple. But TT is ridiculous and I think people forget the long term added costs changing things up or adding parts to wastegate centris, etc. I'm toying with doing a TT next time. I've seen some REALLY fast street turbo cars. It just depends what you want!

That is one thing that i always worry about is the belt breaking or slipping. I definitely like the idea of not having to change pulleys to increase boost. Heat was another issue that i have debated, although im sure the new designs are efficient, i dont think it is as good as a turbo setup. I also feel like the base turbo kits are more capable than stage 1 blower setups, though i could be wrong.



The added cost of headers i look at both ways, its something you add on to the cost, or its a mod you can do ahead of time while youre still running NA and make some power gains to hold you over.
 

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I second what [MENTION=16778]gqneon[/MENTION] says... What are your goals for your '19? If you want to be the fastest S550 at the track, and $$ isn't a big deal, then TT is the way to go.

A PD blower car is fun to drive because of the torque. I considered everything and decided to keep it simple and just do the tried and true Procharger. Plenty fast and I couldn't be happier with it....
 
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I second what @gqneon says... What are your goals for your '19? If you want to be the fastest S550 at the track, and $$ isn't a big deal, then TT is the way to go.

A PD blower car is fun to drive because of the torque. I considered everything and decided to keep it simple and just do the tried and true Procharger. Plenty fast and I couldn't be happier with it....

The hellion video i watched put up 777tq which is a decent bit more than any other setup i have seen. I think i am going to end up TT, i want to see what exhaust options work best. I also like the ease of selecting boost, not having to swap out pullies. As for speed at the track, i would like to be around the 145-150 then be able to turn down for street.
 

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The hellion video i watched put up 777tq which is a decent bit more than any other setup i have seen. I think i am going to end up TT, i want to see what exhaust options work best. I also like the ease of selecting boost, not having to swap out pullies. As for speed at the track, i would like to be around the 145-150 then be able to turn down for street.
Sounds like a TT set up is what your looking for... Other than the initial cost, and extra work to set up and tune, it will deliver like no other kit will. Good luck!
 
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Sounds like a TT set up is what your looking for... Other than the initial cost, and extra work to set up and tune, it will deliver like no other kit will. Good luck!

Now i just need to figure out who makes the best kit. Hellion is the big name that seems to always do good. That Aldowelds TT is crazy tho.
 

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Aldowelds is all I hear about. On3 had a system that rips for next to nothing - what you really need is a great shop that can show you examples of the kits they're putting on their customers cars and how happy they are / how much power they make / how fast they're cutting at the track.

TT is absolutely crazy for power potential. There's really not much comparison. But that doesn't mean for a street car you wouldn't be happy with any of the choices. They're all different. For instance - the spool time on my Whipple is... oh wait - zero lol...

Keep us posted!
 
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Aldowelds is all I hear about. On3 had a system that rips for next to nothing - what you really need is a great shop that can show you examples of the kits they're putting on their customers cars and how happy they are / how much power they make / how fast they're cutting at the track.

TT is absolutely crazy for power potential. There's really not much comparison. But that doesn't mean for a street car you wouldn't be happy with any of the choices. They're all different. For instance - the spool time on my Whipple is... oh wait - zero lol...

Keep us posted!

As of now im looking at the aldowelds and hellion kit. I've heard that the hellion has back-pressure issues when you run 14 or more psi but that its not an issue if you run the 62mm turbos, which is what the aldowelds kit starts with.
 

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whatever blower / turbo someone has on their car will be "whats best" and "what they recommend"

once you realize that, lol, you have to look at 3 things, budget, driving style, power delivery

feel free to give me a ring, we are the forced induction specialists, and we can go over your wants, needs, and goals, and help put the right package together for you
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