Replacing with 11-14 MT82

Sourced a hurt S197 transmission to rebuild. Getting mixed messages from my research on what needs to be changed to work with an S550. I know the driveshaft flange needs to be changed from 4-bolt to 3-bolt, and the shifter assembly is different (but I *think* the MGW I’ll be bolting on negates this issue), but is there anything else? VMP lists the tailshaft being different, but when I reached out to Mike @ Autonation White Bear Lake, he told me the part numbers are the same for 11-14 and 15+. Has anybody done this and can speak from experience, or point me in the right direction? Thanks!

Shoot him a message on messenger
https://www.prod.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1567424259

i think it's the guibo? that's different.

whatsup62 said:

Shoot him a message on messenger
https://www.prod.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1567424259

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Thanks, already working with Ben but I forgot to ask him about this the other day when we spoke at length on the phone. Since he’s heading out of town for a race this weekend, I didn’t want to bother him and figured I’d ask here in the interim. I’ll definitely be posing the same question when we speak Monday, and report back!

Nerass said:

i think it's the guibo? that's different.

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No giubo, I run a 1pc driveshaft. But the flange that they both connect to is definitely different.

To close the loop on this..

Driveshaft flange and shifter differ, tailshaft (and everything else relevant for a swap) is the same. If you have an aftermarket shifter (e.g., MGW), then you only need to R&R the flange. Confirmed by people I've spoken with offline that have gone the opposite direction (15+ to 11-14), various Ford parts contacts, as well as Ben himself.

Dont grab an ‘11 MT82. Even a ‘12 is hit or miss unless you know the build date. The MT82’s built after first half of 2012 production are the ones you want. Ford made a lot of improvements through the first 1.5MY life.

I don’t doubt it, but in my case it’s a moot point. The donor tranny I had ended up with had absolutely trashed internals, so I’m really only using the case and tailshaft, with a new G-Force gearset and internals.

boardkat said:

I don’t doubt it, but in my case it’s a moot point. The donor tranny I had ended up with had absolutely trashed internals, so I’m really only using the case and tailshaft, with a new G-Force gearset and internals.

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So G-Force has an official gearset for the MT-82? Just Wondering cause my tranny is on the way out soon. Its making some nasty noises. Been debating a Tremec XL or a stage 1 Calimer. Planing on adding boost in the future. I really just dont want to do the little stuff that comes with the Tremec Swap. Much rather just do an easy MT-82 out and in in a couple of hours. If I can get G-Force gears that would be so much better. I have to figure out how to reach Ben Calimer, Cause I dont have or do Facebook lol.

Yep. Ben ordered (10) gearsets, which are exclusive; he’s taking delivery of the first (5) fresh from the machine shop next week, after a very long wait for G-Force to iterate and tool up. Rated for “a lot” of torque (was told the 650-700wtq I’ll eventually be putting through it won’t be a problem - check their gearset ratings for other transmissions to get an idea of how stout they build them - https://www.gforcetransmissions.com/); ratios are:

1st: 3.49
2nd: 2.32
3rd: 1.61
4th: 1.26
5th: 1
6th: 0.62

If you don’t facespace, PM me for Ben’s contact info.

boardkat said:

Yep. Ben ordered (10) gearsets, which are exclusive; he’s taking delivery of the first (5) fresh from the machine shop next week, after a very long wait for G-Force to iterate and tool up. Rated for “a lot” of torque (was told the 650-700wtq I’ll eventually be putting through it won’t be a problem - check their gearset ratings for other transmissions to get an idea of how stout they build them - https://www.gforcetransmissions.com/); ratios are:

1st: 3.49
2nd: 2.32
3rd: 1.61
4th: 1.26
5th: 1
6th: 0.62

If you don’t facespace, PM me for Ben’s contact info.

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Very cool! Glad to see some aftermarket dive into (literally) the MT82.

Whats the ballpark price on the gearset?

In for price of gforce mt82

F1scamp said:

Whats the ballpark price on the gearset?

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i'll have an invoice for my build soon, stay tuned. if i had to guess, based on the conversations we've been having, gearset installed and shipped will come in around $3k.

Way cheaper than converting. Good to know. Thanks!