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Old 07-14-2017, 05:17 PM   #391
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Spec weight is 3054. Not sure how you got 3054-2800 = 400.

and 3054 lbs is still super light for a 650 hp mid engine car.
I believe the 3054 is actually the dry weight of the Comnpetition Series also. Different engine cover with manual latch and prop rod, thinner bulkhead glass, standard carbon wheels and titanium lug nuts and exhaust.
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Old 07-14-2017, 05:49 PM   #392
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I just want to be able to go down to my dealer and order the car the way I want it! I hope that's not to much to ask! Crazy to think that is not normal procedure with a +70k car!
BINGO!!!! I agree.
It's a win-win,....the dealership makes a guaranteed sale and the customer has the exact car they want.
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Old 07-15-2017, 03:10 AM   #393
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Keep in mind the new GT has a built-in roll cage.
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If we want apples let's do this:

http://cars.mclaren.com/files/live/s...cification.pdf

Over 230lbs lighter dry, with an 8 under the bonnet.

But I'll stop as I don't want to derail this thread any further. Ford although is awesome at drivetrains, chassis and lightening is not their forte.
The McLaren doesn't have the heavy hydraulics that raises and lowers the GT 2" instantly and powers everything from the front aero flaps (not on McLaren) to the rear wing and steering. If you took that out of the GT, it would probably be similar in weight.
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Old 07-15-2017, 10:40 AM   #395
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My hope is now that the GT is completely out and that 2018 configuration site will be up we can get on to the next SE!! Hopefully Ford as been waiting not to step on those models excitement! Maybe will start being thrown some bones!!!!
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The McLaren doesn't have the heavy hydraulics that raises and lowers the GT 2" instantly and powers everything from the front aero flaps (not on McLaren) to the rear wing and steering. If you took that out of the GT, it would probably be similar in weight.
I get that we're on a Ford site, and I like the GT, I really do.

Mclaren has hydraulic steering, rear deck wing, and V2.0 suspension from the P1.

It also has a nutty 4L V8 that turns 8500rpm. Sorry the GT doesn't quite compare, especially being the weight it is. It's also 150k cheaper lol.

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I'm thinking centrifugal supercharged configuration. They're much harder to discern sound wise than roots. A slight whooosh vs whining. Can be mistake as NA
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I get that we're on a Ford site, and I like the GT, I really do.

Mclaren has hydraulic steering, rear deck wing, and V2.0 suspension from the P1.

It also has a nutty 4L V8 that turns 8500rpm. Sorry the GT doesn't quite compare, especially being the weight it is. It's also 150k cheaper lol.

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I'm thinking centrifugal supercharged configuration. They're much harder to discern sound wise than roots. A slight whooosh vs whining. Can be mistake as NA
I agree, the GT has history but there's others I'd much rather have for less. For the cost that engine doesn't do it for me.

Centrifugal SC I suppose is possible but when's the last time a manufacture used them on a production car? It's pretty rare that they are used on production cars.
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Old 07-15-2017, 12:18 PM   #398
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I agree, the GT has history but there's others I'd much rather have for less. For the cost that engine doesn't do it for me.

Centrifugal SC I suppose is possible but when's the last time a manufacture used them on a production car? It's pretty rare that they are used on production cars.
Well it's rare.. but they exist. Konisegg uses them I believe.

And, actually, our beloved Shelby's had an option in '67(?) I beleive. The GT350 came with a Paxton option. So not unheard of in this type of car .
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Well it's rare.. but they exist. Konisegg uses them I believe.

And, actually, our beloved Shelby's had an option in '67(?) I beleive. The GT350 came with a Paxton option. So not unheard of in this type of car .
'55 - '57 Ford Fairlane and ThunderBirds were the first.
The most powerful car out of the sixties was the 800+hp Shelby Super Snake. Twin Paxtons + a 427 Sideoiler.
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Looking at the Ford site the top engine choice for every model they offer is a turbo charged eccoboost version of an engine! It would be stunning to me for the new Halo Mustang to not be an Ecco something!! It would fly in the face of their entire line up? It may vary well be supercharged but that sure goes against the grain of their whole marketing push! And would seem like a step backwards!
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Old 07-15-2017, 02:48 PM   #401
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So today marks three years since the GT350 was spotted on the Nürburgring. Do you think will be seeing any spy shots there again soon of whatever monster Ford has in store?
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'55 - '57 Ford Fairlane and ThunderBirds were the first.
The most powerful car out of the sixties was the 800+hp Shelby Super Snake. Twin Paxtons + a 427 Sideoiler.
I knew about the birds. Just learned about the twin Paxton's. This is sort of making sense now. The fender grills could be exactly where the centrifugal units mount. That would be silly to have two just for nostalgia sake when one would do.

Very interesting though.
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Old 07-15-2017, 07:20 PM   #403
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I get that we're on a Ford site, and I like the GT, I really do.

Mclaren has hydraulic steering, rear deck wing, and V2.0 suspension from the P1.

It also has a nutty 4L V8 that turns 8500rpm. Sorry the GT doesn't quite compare, especially being the weight it is. It's also 150k cheaper lol.

But back on Mustang talk.

I'm thinking centrifugal supercharged configuration. They're much harder to discern sound wise than roots. A slight whooosh vs whining. Can be mistake as NA
Would still rather have a '17 GT shoot, id rather have an 04 GT than any Mclaren, aint no 200 to 400 extra lbs gonna sway me. Sometimes its not about performance, more about roots and what talks to yah, but Si, moving on.

I'll be waiting for more leakage and spy vids. Im curious to see what other of the 12 by 20 will be
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The info stream has got to heat up between now and the end of the year!
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Old 07-15-2017, 07:47 PM   #405
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If we want apples let's do this:

http://cars.mclaren.com/files/live/s...cification.pdf

Over 230lbs lighter dry, with an 8 under the bonnet.

But I'll stop as I don't want to derail this thread any further. Ford although is awesome at drivetrains, chassis and lightening is not their forte.
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I get that we're on a Ford site, and I like the GT, I really do.

Mclaren has hydraulic steering, rear deck wing, and V2.0 suspension from the P1.

It also has a nutty 4L V8 that turns 8500rpm. Sorry the GT doesn't quite compare, especially being the weight it is. It's also 150k cheaper lol.

But back on Mustang talk.

I'm thinking centrifugal supercharged configuration. They're much harder to discern sound wise than roots. A slight whooosh vs whining. Can be mistake as NA
How has McLaren been doing at LeMans?

And try this:
http://www.nydailynews.com/autos/new...icle-1.2956133

I do agree that a V8 is superior in sound to a V6, but I think you're implying that the McLaren is better in performance than the Ford GT. I don't think they're even close. A car's weight is an indicator of performance, but it's not the only factor by any means.
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