Streetfighter Engine Oil Cooler Upgrade

GrabbberAussie · Feb 27, 2018

Streetfighter Mustang said:
It was not one of ours or customers cars that went on fire.
It was a colleagues workshop vehicle.
I dont believe that he approached Ford due to being on race track.
To avoid a re-occurance the repair was carried out with an aftermarket oil cooler replacing the failed factory cooler.

Streetfighter oil coolers have Lifetime guarantees on the component.
The oil cooler would be replaced if it ever failed.
Streetfighter Power packages have 3 Year/100,000 km driveline warranties included.
Should you have one of our Streetfighter Power Packages with the Streetfighter oil cooler kit fitted , yes you would be covered for the said period not just for the oil cooler , but any consequences arising from failures.

Ok, so to just clarify what you have stated above. If I buy this and put this into my stock GT - if the oil cooler fails and destroys the engine, SF will only cover the oil cooler failure?

Streetfighter Mustang · Feb 27, 2018

GrabbberAussie said:
Ok, so to just clarify what you have stated above. If I buy this and put this into my stock GT - if the oil cooler fails and destroys the engine, SF will only cover the oil cooler failure?

We would be so confidant in our product, that I am prepared to state that if a consequential failure ever occurred and proved to be due to a manufacturing fault of our oil cooler that we would cover the repair for a period of 3 Years/100,000 km from date of vehicle compliance..
Beyond this we would cover the component for a Lifetime.

Streetfighter Mustang · Feb 28, 2018

GT 550 said:
[MENTION=8774]Street[/MENTION]fighter can you share more details of the fire please? Fires sometimes get the attention of safety regulators and large companies.

We have little information , other than it was definitely an oil cooler failure causing an under bonnet fire.

TeamDenno · Feb 28, 2018

Streetfighter Mustang said:
We would be so confidant in our product, that I am prepared to state that if a consequential failure ever occurred and proved to be due to a manufacturing fault of our oil cooler that we would cover the repair for a period of 3 Years/100,000 km from date of vehicle compliance..
Beyond this we would cover the component for a Lifetime.

So David, you are saying that by fitting a SF Oil Cooler... if the part ever failed (which in turn will cause catastrophic damage to the engine) that SF would cover the cost not only of replacing the failed oil cooler, but would also cover the cost of a complete replacement engine?

Streetfighter Mustang said:
We have little information , other than it was definitely an oil cooler failure causing an under bonnet fire.

There is a lot of ambiguity there. "It was definately an oil coooler failure causing.. a fire" and "we have little information".

Sorry, but you need to elaborate with details, or not broadcast. Otherwise its supposition and assumption.

"Oil cooler failed, resulting in oil contaminating xyz... getting to a flash point at the location of abc which caused the fire..."

Suggesting you know the cause, but have little information suggests you don't actually know how the fire started.

Streetfighter Mustang · Feb 28, 2018

TeamDenno said:
So David, you are saying that by fitting a SF Oil Cooler... if the part ever failed (which in turn will cause catastrophic damage to the engine) that SF would cover the cost not only of replacing the failed oil cooler, but would also cover the cost of a complete replacement engine?

Yes, rephrased;
We would be so confident in our product, that I am prepared to state that if a consequential failure ever occurred (eg engine failure) and proved to be due to a manufacturing fault of our oil cooler that we would cover the repair for a period of 3 Years/100,000 km from date of vehicle compliance..
Beyond this we would cover the component (oil cooler) for a Lifetime.

TeamDenno said:
There is a lot of ambiguity there. "It was definately an oil coooler failure causing.. a fire" and "we have little information".

Sorry, but you need to elaborate with details, or not broadcast. Otherwise its supposition and assumption.

"Oil cooler failed, resulting in oil contaminating xyz... getting to a flash point at the location of abc which caused the fire..."

Suggesting you know the cause, but have little information suggests you don't actually know how the fire started.

To be clearer, we know the repairer and we were contacted first hand with confirmation the standard factory oil cooler failed.
It was explained to us that it failed in such a way that oil leaked externally from the oil cooler onto the hot exhaust system while being driven at speed. This in turn ignited, to cause an under bonnet fire.
This is the little information that we have.
The repairer contacted us as he knew of our in-development aftermarket oil cooler package and was interested in upgrading to avoid the same happening in future.

As we have no reason to doubt this information, we give this as a true and correct example of possible implications should an oil cooler fail. The failures are not just internal into the engine and cooling system, however as explained can also occur externally.

GrabbberAussie · Feb 28, 2018

Streetfighter Mustang said:
Yes, rephrased;
We would be so confident in our product, that I am prepared to state that if a consequential failure ever occurred (eg engine failure) and proved to be due to a manufacturing fault of our oil cooler that we would cover the repair for a period of 3 Years/100,000 km from date of vehicle compliance..
Beyond this we would cover the component (oil cooler) for a Lifetime.

So really, nothing different to Ford warranty, who will cover the engine if the oil cooler fails. We would just be preventing it from happening.

GT 550 · Mar 1, 2018

Hi Aubrey, this is a SF thread the question might be better posted in the oil cooler failure thread where kits have been discussed more generally

https://www.mustang6g.com/forums/showthread.php?t=90359&page=17

:cheers:

Aubrey · Mar 1, 2018

GT 550 said:
Hi Aubrey, this is a SF thread the question might be better posted in the oil cooler failure thread where kits have been discussed more generally

https://www.mustang6g.com/forums/showthread.php?t=90359&page=17

:cheers:

Apologies, deleted.

Streetfighter Mustang · Mar 4, 2018

GrabbberAussie said:
So really, nothing different to Ford warranty, who will cover the engine if the oil cooler fails. We would just be preventing it from happening.

Correct.
The Streetfighter cooler package definitely outperforms the standard cooler in its capacity to control engine oil temps.
More importantly, it is also a far more robust design than any factory cooler therefore removes the risk, unreliability and at worst fire hazard that can be caused from a failure.

Streetfighter Mustang · May 29, 2018

For all enquiries over the last several weeks. We are now back in stock .

https://www.kpmmotorsport.com.au/product/streetfighter-engine-oil-cooler-package-gt-v8/

Streetfighter Mustang · Jun 27, 2018

After extensive testing in regards to why standard oil coolers are failing, our findings are proving the positioning of the standard cooler is the primary cause.
Being mounted under the hot exhaust manifold is not ideal for any type of cooler , however we believe the primary reason for failures is the unusual frequency of oil pressure pulsation at this mounting point.

We have electronically logged oil pressure wave forms at several differing points on the 5.0 engine and have found the mounting area of the standard oil cooler to be the worst for pressure pulsation. This pulsation increases substantially and erratically with engine revolutions and load.

We have also logged the oil cooler mounting position for the LHD Mustangs and found no such pulsation , possibly explaining why the U.S Mustangs do not have a problem with failure.

A possible combination of heat and poor component quality may also increase chances of the cooler failing when placed in a position where there are erratic pressure frequencies.
Please note that these are our own internal findings and may not be the same findings of the OE manufacturer.

Mustang GT007 · Jun 28, 2018

Streetfighter Mustang said:
For all enquiries over the last several weeks. We are now back in stock .

https://www.kpmmotorsport.com.au/product/streetfighter-engine-oil-cooler-package-gt-v8/

Would be great if you could convince Ford Australia to cover the cost of this conversion for all RHD Mustangs. Would be a lot cheaper for them than replacing full engines not too mention the Marketing advantage this would provide FORD for taking the precaution for its loyal customers.:ford:

MUS550 · Jun 28, 2018

Streetfighter Mustang said:
After extensive testing in regards to why standard oil coolers are failing, our findings are proving the positioning of the standard cooler is the primary cause.
Being mounted under the hot exhaust manifold is not ideal for any type of cooler , however we believe the primary reason for failures is the unusual frequency of oil pressure pulsation at this mounting point.

We have electronically logged oil pressure wave forms at several differing points on the 5.0 engine and have found the mounting area of the standard oil cooler to be the worst for pressure pulsation. This pulsation increases substantially and erratically with engine revolutions and load.

We have also logged the oil cooler mounting position for the LHD Mustangs and found no such pulsation , possibly explaining why the U.S Mustangs do not have a problem with failure.

A possible combination of heat and poor component quality may also increase chances of the cooler failing when placed in a position where there are erratic pressure frequencies.
Please note that these are our own internal findings and may not be the same findings of the OE manufacturer.

Is this the same for the new 2018 mustang ?

Streetfighter Mustang · Jun 28, 2018

MUS550 said:
Is this the same for the new 2018 mustang ?

Yes unfortunately, Ford has gone with the oil cooler in exact same positioning as 2015-2017 models.

MM777 · Jul 5, 2018

Streetfighter Mustang said:
After extensive testing in regards to why standard oil coolers are failing, our findings are proving the positioning of the standard cooler is the primary cause.
Being mounted under the hot exhaust manifold is not ideal for any type of cooler , however we believe the primary reason for failures is the unusual frequency of oil pressure pulsation at this mounting point.

We have electronically logged oil pressure wave forms at several differing points on the 5.0 engine and have found the mounting area of the standard oil cooler to be the worst for pressure pulsation. This pulsation increases substantially and erratically with engine revolutions and load.

We have also logged the oil cooler mounting position for the LHD Mustangs and found no such pulsation , possibly explaining why the U.S Mustangs do not have a problem with failure.

A possible combination of heat and poor component quality may also increase chances of the cooler failing when placed in a position where there are erratic pressure frequencies.
Please note that these are our own internal findings and may not be the same findings of the OE manufacturer.

Thanks David, your tests go a long way to illustrating the 'Oil Cooler Issue'. In your opinion to eliminate the pulsating oil pressure would it be worth getting rid of the RHD Oil cooler setup when installing the Mishimoto kit, using something similar to the Ford Perf Remote Oil adapter kit M-6881-M50A & relocating the oil filter at the same time (This would require US spec engine brackets (BMR MM008))?

Thanks

Mick

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