4V Mayhem
Well-Known Member
Trying to win what exactly. You said they were discounts and they aren't. They are rebates. They are 2 completely different things. You tried to word it as if the Camaros don't sell unless they are discounted. And you are completely wrong because I have yet to see even one discount. There are rebates. And again, every vehicle manufacturer, even Ford, offers REBATES. And no, there is nobody getting rebates that steep. Maybe you should check your information before you go around quoting it.Man, you’re trying so hard to win. I don’t care what you want to call it…discount, rebate, a steaming pile of shit. If I have the ability to walk into a dealer and get $8k-$10k off of a vehicle…the price is inherently lower. Don’t credit me for this, I got this pricing information from actual camaro owners.
It sure as hell ain't "$45K" that you claim you saw either. I don't care about the 0.39 seconds that the GT350R lost by. That's YOUR hangup. You been hung up on that for months. If it didn't bother you or if you were as convinced that it wasn't that big of a loss as you say, then you would have moved on long time ago. When was that anyway, like back in May? Almost a year and you're the only one still harping on it. Move on already.And yet, $49,900 is not $50k. If you want to go down that road, we can revisit the GT350R’s 0.4 second track deficit against the ZL1.
Of course it's gone. It was probably a base model M6 trans with no add-ons and high mileage. But since you're the only one who saw it I guess we'll just have to assume that it was a fully optioned fully loaded ZL1 with the A10 trans, 1 owner, and 250 miles that just couldn't sell so they lowered the price substantially...like you want us to believe.As for the $45k car, it’s gone. It was obviously a deal (had 15k miles), as it’s no longer listed.
And your example was an 8,000 mile no-option M6 trans 17 ZL1 listed at $49,900 in the time of year that these cars don't typically sell that well. Sure.No one is saying they aren’t selling, but the pricing is certainly indicative of them not holding their prices.
Both of these cars overheat. Last I checked Ford had a lawsuit filed against them for the overheating limp mode issues with the Shelby. GM addressed their issues with revisions to the tune and revised the 17 and up Z06s from what I read. What has Ford done? I'm literally asking because I haven't kept up with it. Either way, they both had those issues and the Z06 issues were resolved.The same Z06 that Mototrend had to retest because the rear end was out of alignment? The same Z06 that starts to overheat after 1 lap?
Man, I love it when chevy guys claim wins on figure 8’s and skidpads. So foolish, yet so entertaining. Again, thanks for the laugh.
Oh, and 1.31 seconds is by no means "slightly" faster. And considering the Z06 overheats after 1 lap, that margin would grow tremendously.
That remains to be seen. The Ford GT costs almost half a million dollars. At that price it better retain the value. The ZR1 will drop in value but that is more due to it being more of a streetable car. People will drive a $120,000 car and put miles on it. Not so with a $400K+ vehicle. The Ford GT will sit and get driven maybe once or twice a year. So it of course will retain the lion share of it's value. And that is if it even loses any value at all.And even if that holds true, the GT will continue to appreciate while the ZR1 value will drop like a rock. That’s the funny thing about real supercars…a great deal of them hold their value (or increase in value).
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