Cold and summer only don't mix

ahl395 said:

What summer tires were you using? My MPSS have been good to me even in chilly temps (around 35F and up) theyre usable.

If you're running 2 separate sets of wheels you'll need to buy a set of TPMS sensors for our cars. You can get them through PK Auto Design or American Muscle, etc. If you're only running one set of wheels you can have the shop remove the sensors in your existing wheels and install them into the new ones. A set is usually around $100 and they do NOT need to be programmed. Once you drive with the new sensors for ~20mi the car will sense them and "seld-program". No need to buy a programmer.

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Emt1581 said:

Found them for $44 shipped here...

https://www.ebay.com/itm/SALE-FOR-FORD-MOTORCRAFT-SET-4-TIRE-PRESSURE-MONITORING-SENSORS-TPMS-Genuine/262771491681?fits=Make%3AFord%7CModel%3AMustang&epid=2113503463&hash=item3d2e66c361:g:MyYAAOSwWGlZ2tW0&vxp=mtr

Looks like they screw into the stems....still use a short/standard stem or are they the longer ones?

Thanks

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ahl395 said:

The description shows them only working for 2010-2014 mustangs. Not sure if the 15+ are different but it looks like they may be.

Some of them use a short metal stem and others use a long rubber stem. Not sure which are OEM and which are aftermarket but I have both on my two sets of wheels lol. Both seem to work fine but I prefer the metal stem as they dont move around when trying to put air in them.

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Nomadic said:

Got rid then Pzeros as well with 5500 mi on them. Got Firestone Indy 500s. Much better in any condition.

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Emt1581 said:

Looks like a good tire but it's a Summer "high performance" tire....I want something that can handle pavement in the 20's-30's safely enough to drive around without sliding so I'm going to avoid the Summers altogether.

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Emt1581 said:

Good observation, I didn't notice that.

I only asked about the stem because I have 20-30 of them sitting in my garage that I bought a couple years ago for my other cars. It'd be nice to save the $10-$20 and just use those. They are the short/standard. But that seems to be what size I'm seeing in all the pics attached to the sensors.

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Emt1581 said:

Looks like a good tire but it's a Summer "high performance" tire....I want something that can handle pavement in the 20's-30's safely enough to drive around without sliding so I'm going to avoid the Summers altogether.

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ahl395 said:

Any TPMS sensor you buy is going to come with the valve stem, so you dont need to worry about it.



I still say MPSS could handle high 20's and up with reasonable driving, and give you much better summer performance. It's under 25F though that you have to worry about the rubber compound cracking. DWS06 definitely get my vote for an All Season though. I have the feeling you are fearing a summer tire because your previous ones are P Zeros. Not all summer tires suck that bad lol.

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Emt1581 said:

Good to know on the stems.

The DWS 06 gets excellent reviews on tire-rack. I'm curious what kind of mileage I can expect though? I usually get 20-30k out of my walmart cheapies (douglas) in my Subaru's. It'd be nice to get at least 20k out of a better quality tire on my Mustang. Is that realistic with "spirited" driving or will even the best and most expensive tires still come in right around 10k for these cars?

One improvement will be that I'll be able to rotate the wheels from here forward....or whenever mine come back in stock that I can order them.

Thanks

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ahl395 said:

Treadlife on the DWS06 is rated at 50k miles.

Personally even with spirited driving and spinning the rear wheels constantly with ~700whp, I've managed to beat the treadlife specs on my MPSS. So 50k is a rough estimate, you may get a little more or a little less, but probably more. They usually say 1/2 mileage in the rear for staggered wheels and RWD. My MPSS are rated at only 30k. I managed 23k out of the rears and fronts look less than 1/3 worn. Treadlife specs be damned

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Emt1581 said:

Oh ok. Wow! That's great! I was thinking that tires would be an annual expense after seeing how the Pzero's performed. Great to know they'll last me 4-5 years since I only will be putting 6k-8k on per year.

Thanks!!

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Emt1581 said:

Looks like a good tire but it's a Summer "high performance" tire....I want something that can handle pavement in the 20's-30's safely enough to drive around without sliding so I'm going to avoid the Summers altogether.

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millhouse said:

I've driven them in the teens so far and they have been holding up great. They may be listed as a summer tire, but they certainly don't show sings of hardening up the way the pirellis did.

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