MT Head 2 Head - 2018 Camaro SS 1LE vs 2018 Mustang GT

Eritas · Jan 24, 2018

Trackaholic said:
GM is definitely killing it in the performance department these days. Cadillac, Camaro, Vette, some of the best handling cars around right now. I think Ford is right there with the GT350, so it would be nice to see some of that trickle down to the standard Mustang. The PP2 is close, but some coolers would make it just about perfect.

Love what Ford did with the Ford GT. Probably the only car I’d be willing to spend $500,000 on. Will probably “settle” for a mid-engine vette at some point, assuming it maintains the pace of improvements that the Vette has been seeing. Hopefully Ford will continue pushing the performance envelope as well, but I honestly don’t have much faith given their recent cuts and strategy. A Lincoln GT based on the Mustang would be a good start.

-T

That mid-engine Vette looks like it could be amazing. The C7 was a great platform as is.

Kevin08 · Jan 24, 2018

millhouse said:
Exactly. They have their place, but it's foolish to think it's somehow an advantage for cars that will never see the track.

Internet bragging rights my dude.

"My car has an extra 50lb of track-focused-gear that I never use"

thill444 · Jan 24, 2018

Welll I would assume most people optioning for PP2 do intend to track the car more than someone who is buying stock or even PP1. If cooling will be an issue why not address it? Ford addressed it with the GT350 in 2017+ by just making the track pack standard after the reports/negative press about people having cooling issues (I know, why these people did not buy the track pack to start is beyond me, but Ford clearly felt the need to get in front of it).

I guess we need to see some runs with the PP2 equipped cars but I gotta think there will be cooling issues that owners will be forced to address with aftermarket parts or from Ford performance.

millhouse · Jan 24, 2018

thill444 said:
Welll I would assume most people optioning for PP2 do intend to track the car more than someone who is buying stock or even PP1. If cooling will be an issue why not address it? Ford addressed it with the GT350 in 2017+ by just making the track pack standard after the reports/negative press about people having cooling issues (I know, why these people did not buy the track pack to start is beyond me, but Ford clearly felt the need to get in front of it).

I guess we need to see some runs with the PP2 equipped cars but I gotta think there will be cooling issues that owners will be forced to address with aftermarket parts or from Ford performance.

I think everyone is in the agreement that the PP2 should have come with adequate coolers.

cgreen5150 · Jan 24, 2018

Baron95 said:
There are a lot of misconceptions here as to how the "magnetic suspension" works and what it can do.

First, there is no such thing as "magnetic suspension". They are magnetic shocks. The shocks are the only things that can be adjusted electronically.

The mag shocks only work well, if:
1 - The rest of the suspension (geometry, springs, anti-roll bars, attach points) also works well.
2 - Their programing is done well.

Ford just started using magnetic shocks. GM (and its subsidiaries) invented the technology and have been using it and learning to tun it for the better part of a decade - on Corvette, Camaro, CTS-V, ATS-V, etc.

Who do you think has a better chance of getting it right?

FORD.

cgreen5150 · Jan 24, 2018

gmlt1 said:
The Gt350 is magical?? I have not seen any track times for the GT350, the SS1LE does on the other hand have many track time's listed. Has there ever been a SS1LE GT350 H2H on any track? For 10k more and 70 horse power more I would hope it would be competitive. The GTLM class that the GT competes in, Corvette won the Manufacture's title. For a street car you are correct, GM has nothing on the $500,000 car, but the $100,000 ZO6 was only 1.6 seconds slower on the VIR, and the $70K ZL11LE was 2.7 seconds slower.

Huge difference in price, but the word "only" in front of 1.6 seconds and 2.7 seconds slower?! That amount of time on a racetrack is eternity! :lol::lol:

1320' · Jan 24, 2018

Apparently Syphon23 has run back over to Camaro6 to trash talk us here..

thehunterooo · Jan 24, 2018

1320' said:
Apparently Syphon23 has run back over to Camaro6 to trash talk us here..

No way no one does that! There are no trolls here!

1320' · Jan 24, 2018

thehunterooo said:
No way no one does that! There are no trolls here!

Tis true my friend!

http://www.camaro6.com/forums/showpost.php?p=10053091&postcount=973

bootlegger · Jan 24, 2018

1320' said:
Tis true my friend!

http://www.camaro6.com/forums/showpost.php?p=10053091&postcount=973

This comment is hilarious:
"My call out remains. I'm still waiting to see a '18 GT on the street so I can fkn smash em. Shoot, even a blowered GT will not run with a Zl1. Sorry."

Has to be joking. SC Mustang GTs on here are running much faster than the ZL1 in the 1/4.
Notice how Syphon23 ignores the non-professional driver times of 11.9x...

1320' · Jan 24, 2018

bootlegger said:
This comment is hilarious:
"My call out remains. I'm still waiting to see a '18 GT on the street so I can fkn smash em. Shoot, even a blowered GT will not run with a Zl1. Sorry."

Has to be joking. SC Mustang GTs on here are running much faster than the ZL1 in the 1/4.
Notice how Syphon23 ignores the non-professional driver times of 11.9x...

He's a real piece of work..apparently he street races with his wife and kids in the car.

nastang87xx · Jan 24, 2018

Trackaholic said:
Will probably “settle” for a mid-engine vette at some point, assuming it maintains the pace of improvements that the Vette has been seeing. Hopefully Ford will continue pushing the performance envelope as well, but I honestly don’t have much faith given their recent cuts and strategy.

Or maybe magical things will happen to C7 Grand Sport prices and I'll get my taint tickled and do something stupid...

A Lincoln GT based on the Mustang would be a good start.

-T

For a long time I disagreed with this. But then I remember Audi has something called the "A5" and BMW has this thing called the "4 Series Coupe". I just think the biggest roadblock for that happening is the Lincoln name itself. It's just not bespoke to that platform language, at least not now anyway.

jake_zx2 · Jan 24, 2018

I saw that post, and it just made me laugh... especially because I have a video on my phone of a tune/tire only 2018 pulling hard on a ZL1... FROM A ROLL :lol:

Syphon23 · Jan 24, 2018

Awwe you guys have to follow me to the Camaro Boards. How sweet. Love you too!

jake_zx2 · Jan 24, 2018

Honestly, I just browse over there sometimes when I'm bored at work. It's nice to stay updated on the poster boys for Autism Speaks

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