DIY - Lifting Gas Pedal w/ Spacers for Heel-Toe, <$5

B.Crowder said:

I did mine a couple of weeks back along with the Steeda pedal. Anyone feel that the pedal assembly is a bit wobbly? Maybe too strong of a word, but I mean not as solid as before? I haven't driven the car in a few months so I don't know if I'm just imagining things. And yes, I'm sure I tightened the nuts on tightly.

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I didn't notice it feeling any different. I went with the two metal washers and nylon spacer...

I also installed the Steeda pedal but quickly decided it wasn't for me.

When I installed my Steeda pedal, the bolts to remove the pedal assembly required a deep socket. I could probably stack 2 inches of spacers on each bolt and still have room left over. I ended up putting thin 3/8ths wide spaces, and it turned out to not be high enough. I need to redo it one of these days and add more height because I still can't reach it to heel-toe unless I'm standing on my brakes.

B.Crowder said:

This might help. Take the nuts off the three studs, lift the pedal assembly and put the spacers on the studs. Replace pedal assembly (on top of spacers) and put the nuts back on.

I did mine a couple of weeks back along with the Steeda pedal. Anyone feel that the pedal assembly is a bit wobbly? Maybe too strong of a word, but I mean not as solid as before? I haven't driven the car in a few months so I don't know if I'm just imagining things. And yes, I'm sure I tightened the nuts on tightly.

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Almost 2 months since installing the spacers. Just checked the gas pedal the other day, very sturdy, not wobbly at all.

Did you install spacers of 1 inch outside diameter? 1 inch diameter is good. Less OD could make it wobbly.

dogiebitt said:

When I installed my Steeda pedal, the bolts to remove the pedal assembly required a deep socket. I could probably stack 2 inches of spacers on each bolt and still have room left over. I ended up putting thin 3/8ths wide spaces, and it turned out to not be high enough. I need to redo it one of these days and add more height because I still can't reach it to heel-toe unless I'm standing on my brakes.

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Maybe V6 is different (having shorter bolts). Anyway on my V6 the bolts can not take spacers more than 3/4 inch thick.

Right now I am using 1/2 inch spacers (3/8 + 1/8 on each bolt), which seems to be just right for me. I am fully enjoying heel-toe in my daily driving.

Speaking of heel-toe, I'd like to mention that the 3-2 down shifts require somewhat long blipping to achieve perfect rpm match. This is due to steep gear ratio changes from 3rd to 2nd gear, as well as the fact that I don't brake hard during my heel-toes (because these heel-toes are done in daily/street driving). Plus I do double clutch while doing heel-toe. Anyway it feels like that I have to `blip' the gas for almost half second in order to get the rpm high enough for 2nd gear. The flywheel must be pretty heavy.

Horse said:

Anyway it feels like that I have to `blip' the gas for almost half second in order to get the rpm high enough for 2nd gear. The flywheel must be pretty heavy.

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Whatever the reason, maybe you have to learn to kick the gas harder instead of longer when dropping down into 2nd.

I know I have to with the TR3650, which has an even wider 2-3 spacing than your MT82.


Norm

Norm Peterson said:

Whatever the reason, maybe you have to learn to kick the gas harder instead of longer when dropping down into 2nd.

I know I have to with the TR3650, which has an even wider 2-3 spacing than your MT82.


Norm

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Thanks and agree. I will make a mental note of that.

Back to report. I measured the studs and got a reading of .240 A true 1/4 hole is perfect. I lifted mine 1/2 by cutting some stainless stee bar stock and drilling holes. they don't have to be 100% centered, just close worked fine. I was a little worried that I might not have enough thread, but it was fine. Pedal position is now perfect for heel toe operation.

I also added a clutch pedal spacer. Overall both projects took about 20 minutes including drilling the bar stock.

Worlds better!

Horse said:

Thanks and agree. I will make a mental note of that.

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I posted this little clip in some other thread somewhere a day or two ago, but it illustrates what I was putting into text.

It crosses my mind that you want to make this little mod as stable and secure as you can get it. Large diameter spacers would be indicated over slender posts.


About 2 seconds in, the throttle % (top number) goes from zero to 99 in a single frame (at 30 frames/second) and stays there for only 5 . The bottom number is mph, and 91 mph in 3rd - the gear I was downshifting into - is pretty close to redline for my engine, gearing, and tire size. No telling how much side force gets put on the pedal at such times.

Don't blink or you'll miss it.

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/ka8nffJ1RW8/mqdefault.jpg


Norm

Norm Peterson said:

I posted this little clip in some other thread somewhere a day or two ago, but it illustrates what I was putting into text.

It crosses my mind that you want to make this little mod as stable and secure as you can get it. Large diameter spacers would be indicated over slender posts.


About 2 seconds in, the throttle % (top number) goes from zero to 99 in a single frame (at 30 frames/second) and stays there for only 5 . The bottom number is mph, and 91 mph in 3rd - the gear I was downshifting into - is pretty close to redline for my engine, gearing, and tire size. No telling how much side force gets put on the pedal at such times.

Don't blink or you'll miss it.

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/ka8nffJ1RW8/mqdefault.jpg


Norm

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Thanks. But I only see a very small picture?

This is freaking GENIUS!!

I bought the Steeda heel/toe pedal, and was planning to put spacers in between the stock pedal and the Steeda cover, but this will be way easier and better! I'm headed to Lowe's very soon!

JR

Horse said:

Thanks. But I only see a very small picture?

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Better now?


Youtube changed their video manager page a little and it's not as easy for me to work with any more.


Norm

Norm Peterson said:

Better now?


Youtube changed their video manager page a little and it's not as easy for me to work with any more.


Norm

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Now I see the video. But ... for me at least ... it's impossible to see the 0-99% throttle change in the video. I watched it several times and I did not blink.

But I get what you trying to say -- kick the gas pedal hard and quick.

Slow motion (25% speed), so around 0:07 - 0:08

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Norm

Now I see. Very nicely done.

Truth be told, I did the 25% trick myself already, but I was paying attention to the 2 second mark (as you said 2 seconds in).

Thank you.

lol, if you watch the 10 second video and play at 25% speed, then very difficult to see it (at the 2 second mark).

but if you watch the 40 second version (slowed down by Norm himself) then you can see (at the 7-8 second mark, corresponding to 2 second mark in normal speed) the quick change in throttle pressure.

why? :frusty: