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I would question why you compare these two vehicles, to be honest. The GT350 is for turns, the last gen GT500 is not. I would ask yourself what kind of performance you want the most and maybe add a few cars to the list?

This sums up most people who are not car enthusiasts. Your average commuter car is going to feel plenty peppy for them and since it's all they know, they start thinking they are fast. Probably assuming that sports car making rumbling noises at 10% throttle is racing them, and all of a sudden...

I'm assuming you weren't referring to the weight.

Agree with everything but #1. I don't think any one comparison is going to be conclusive, and not because of "tainted opinions" but because of environmental conditions that cannot be circumvented. The key is to look at all of the available data and then come up with a conclusion. As for #3...

Throwing out sales numbers again, I predict the next post is going to be about visibility. Honestly I see the Camaro being rarer as a positive. I see almost as many Mustangs as I do Teslas around here.

The Camaro wasn't modded, quit inventing excuses.

You call us keyboard warriors and then want to hire someone to drive your car for you? Jesus dude. How about you show up here at Laguna...

That's the difference between a fanboy and an enthusiast. We appreciate all the performance vehicles that are available and are more than willing to admit a fault, even if we own and love it. No car is perfect. On the other hand, fanboys will constantly make excuses, deflect conversations and...

He makes all this shit up and calls everyone else delusional. LOL.

Considering that those tires are considered "cooked" after a lap or two I honestly think that's a better comparison than requiring a fresh set of tires for every lap. Most people are going to run them on track until they are corded. Again, Camaro did not have new or even matching tires. The lap...

He won't be happy unless John Ford himself tells him in person what configuration the car is in. These kinds of paranoid delusions and conspiracy theories really aren't healthy. Hopefully he finds some help soon.

I can attest to that. It's not hard to do a burnout with 650 ft/lbs. Plenty of evidence of ZL1's losing races due traction loss. That said, it's not too difficult to find the sweet spot on this car. The GT500, on the other hand, has received a few comments on just how difficult it is to hook...

I do think the Camaro has the advantage in the handling department, and I am clearly not alone. Exactly how much is the question. We have some data, regardless of how flawed these individual comparisons might be, we are seeing very similar trends from each. I think a track test of the two base...

Wait for it. They are trickling the info out just like everyone else is doing.

Some folks are pretty delusional... I'm not saying the GT500 chassis is bad, or even worse than the ZL1. My entire point has really only been about the effectiveness of the powertrain and chassis combination, and how that relates to the performance of the vehicle when driven on the street...

GT500's are running nearly a second faster on the strip.. ZL1 is about an 11.4 on the strip with a good run. Pretty close to the street times, no? All I'm saying is that the ZL1 puts power down better and you are arguing by saying the same thing. I don't get it.

The ZL1 puts up similar times on the street as it does on the strip. So, 2 of the 3 cars need a specialized surface... And apparently even with a drag strip, success is not guaranteed.

You're just proving my point. If it needs a specialized surface in order to get traction, it's too much power. GT500 will be in another zip code. Nobody is arguing that the GT500 doesn't accelerate harder once it hooks up.

So how come it doesn't obliterate the ZL1 as anticipated? It is also subject to road surface, tires and ambient temperatures. Are you saying that the GT500 is more affected by these variables? Is that because, perhaps, the power is too much for the chassis to put it all down?

Well, OK, that's definitely subjective. In comparison to the Camaro, it obviously has a more difficult time putting the power to the ground. "Can't harness it's full power." How else do you explain it if it's not the chassis?