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Higher volume? The latest data available (2017 model year) shows 1,512 Camaro SS 1LE's were built. How many GT350's were built for model year 2017? And ZL1 1LE's are far rarer, just like the GT30R. As far as desirability...very subjective!:)

Kermit almost looks yellow by comparison!

Me too. May the best car win.

I'm a skilled driver, but i don't pretend to have these times. What i do know is that i'm much faster in my 1LE than i was in my buddy's '17 GT PP. He was blown away when i let him drive it.

I agree that i wouldn't have the 1LE as my daily driver, but not all of us buy our Camaros to DD. I have my RAM truck for that.

Unless you own stock in FMC why do sales figures matter to you? It won't make your car any quicker, and i've yet to meet anyone who's lost a race and then quotes sales numbers as a crutch. Back to the numbers that matter...Oh, yeah! The guys over at the Ferrari 458 italia forum are just as...

Yeah, i'm in the minority, and the sales numbers prove it. More people need a car that's more livable than what the Camaro offers. I get that, but i still prefer the Camaro for my needs (weekend backroad burner). edit: To me it is beautiful.

That wasn't so hard, was it? Like you acknowledged, you can drive safely in the Camaro with it's current visibility. It was far from a deal-breaker for me. The small glass, high beltline, and big C pillars are what make the Camaro look good to me and likely ugly to you. C'est la vive. My...

I was hoping for an intelligent rebuttal, but...

Two points about the 'visibility' and 'tight cabin' arguments against the Camaro. Visibility is not a problem while driving the car if you have your mirrors adjusted properly. An extra turn or two of the neck is required when backing out of a parking space, but that's it. The seating position...

Do you have a pic of the window sticker by chance?

thehunterooo: Fair enough. I don't defend Camaro6's moderators or editors. Both forums have their inherent biases. It's like comparing Fox News to CNN. From the outside looking in you can see it clearer. I prefer to spend more time driving my car than posting about it. With that said i'm...

http://www.camaro6.com/forums/showthread.php?t=517558 You were saying? If it matters, it was reported on Camaro6 before Mustang6g (look at the date/time of the first post). Anyways, congrats to Ford. It's a good time to be an enthusiast.

Some of the track video shots show a ZL1 and not an SS.

Edmunds made another cock-up by showing a ZL1 in some of the track shots in the video above.