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Looks are what draw people to the car. Yes there are many other variables as to why they choose a specific vehicle in the end (like PRICE being a major one you omitted). But more often than not, people buy based on first impression. What does Gen5 have to do with the Gen6 which is far...

If you get the 301a it brings it to exactly the same price as a base Camaro SS, dollar for dollar. And at that price point you get a lot more out of the Camaro. Mustang is no longer the deal it used to be.

I'm 5'10" and I am totally comfortable in the Camaro. I even made sure my 8 year old can sit comfortably behind me when needed. Comfort level is going to be subjective because some people will prefer the higher seating position of the Mustang. In your instance of being 6'3" I can see how you...

Well, does it not?!? :headbonk:

Is Ford building it's own ZL1?

PP2 also gets suspension tweaks, likely closer to GT350 spec, if not exactly GT350 spec. Debatable. Yes, you can argue the Tremec is better. I drove an 18 GT PP with the newly revised MT82, it was pretty damn good. The chassis was built for Cadillac to compete with BMW as you said. But...

I'm not quite sure if you guys have shopped a new Mustang lately, because I did. The base 2018 GT starts at $35,995 with delivery. It's missing things like automatic climate controls, voice commands, satellite radio, Android Auto and Apple Car play projection, and a couple other creature...

The Bullitt looks sweet, love that green. That only leaves me with two questions. How much? And why did they have to paint the brake calipers red... couldn't they just do grey? That would be a better fit.

Would someone from the Netherlands be able to just cross the border into Germany and buy the car off the German dealer lots? Or would they still have to pay the tax when registering?

I omitted 'some' stuff, that's all. :cheers: Dealer had to find the car. I'll post them on the 'other' 6G site when I pick it up some time this week.

Absolutely. I want to be able to take the car to it's limits in a confined 'safe' environment.

Different audience, but you're right. It's not like I changed my verdict however, only changed the wording.

I was really waiting for the '18 refresh to make my mind up about the Mustang, wanted to see what Ford had to offer. So yesterday I finally had the opportunity to test drive a brand new GT with the Performance Package back to back with a 2018 Camaro 2SS, both with a manual transmission. Here are...

Kona or Crimson.

To be replaced by the GT500. I wasn't comparing the GT350 to the 1LE. I was simply referring to the pecking order in the Mustang family. Ford will not want to step on the heels of the Shelby as long as it's in production, hence possible under-rating of the HP numbers. Not saying it's...

This is very true, but they also have to protect the GT350. Let's suppose it does make 500hp and you advertise it as such. Why would Jim Bob spend $60,000 on a GT350 when he can pick up a GT for $20K less? The only reason it's rated specifically at 460 is because one can now say it has more...

I got a couple offers below $42K here in the north east, even had one for $40,6K (no PDR though). He's in Maryland and $41K out the door, which means $38K before fees and taxes. I'm interested which dealer this is.

Doubt it. If you can hold your own then you're a damn good driver, congrats. Well technically, Motor Trend is comparing the available 'Performance' packaged Camaro, and the 'Performance' packaged Mustang. It's not their fault that the Mustang's performance doesn't hold up, that's for Ford...

I don't see Ford eliminating the V8 in our lifetime. There will always be some form of a V8 in a Mustang, they wouldn't dare drop it. Same goes for the Camaro.

The thing about the GT350, is that that the Voodoo makes it a future classic. This car will likely retain the highest percentage of it's value among any Mustang built in the last decade. It's exclusive, simply put. It's like nothing else that Ford has ever put in a Mustang. If only I didn't...