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I was just agreeing with you that the market is strong. Calm down sparky.

Vanguard S&P 500 Index was 24% last year ;)

You're actually right and the dealer ended up advising me of this. Went to my CU and got 2%.

Not sure how you gather that. I think it would be the opposite. To me a Miata, S2000, M3, GT350, etc.. are the same type of "Drivers Car" people. *shrug*

KW doesn't make V2/V3 for the S550s?

As someone who has owned 4 E92 M3s (which I consider a baby S550 at this point; High revving V8 but only 420hp) I think the "special" factor of cars like an M3 or GT350 is the most overrated factor of a car. Sure the M3s were great at 8400rpm but how often can you wind it out on the street...

Right now I'm looking at a local Kona Blue A10 GT Premium PP1, Recaros, Active Exhaust, 401A.. They are at 18% off without negotiation and I was going to shoot for 20% off then take the 0% financing. My question is should I be shooting for even more than 20% off? This dealer has 4 similar...

So after the dealer who would supposedly give me a good deal on a GT PP2 is now playing games and not providing the discount they stated I've decided to just go 18 GT350. The hung begins..

I mean we agree updates are put out as they are ready. We disagree that they are minor. They were major enough for me to spend money to upgrade.....

Dude - my first words were obviously "I dont keep up with Mustang changes". So "clearly explained" or not I didn't see it. RE: BMW You're just wrong. I've owned a 08, 11, 13, 15, 16, and 18 M3. So I think I have some perspective.

That's pretty awesome. What does that mean for warranty???

Yeah about 3k off here it looks like.

Did you roll that whipple install @ the dealer into your deal??

Welp I guess Ill be waiting some time before my purchase....

Sounds like BMW tactics.. ugh. Nothing annoys me more than buying a new car that goes "unfresh" every other year.

I dont follow Mustang updates closely but why would you facelift in 2021 just to do a redesign in 2022? Are they just trying to ruin their clients resale value? :)

I can buy a brand new 2019 PP2 right now for $41,500 at my local dealer with an MSRP of $51,940. Add 7k for a Whipple. So you're right.. but its close to what a 18 GT350 costs.

Of course it does.. But he's probably in for a good bit less than a GT350 still...

This isn't always the case with any vehicle. Take E92 M3s for example. 2011 seems to be the money year as in 2012-2013 they used some cheaper interior parts etc for the end of the run.

What year GT350 is needed for it to be solid? 17? I would rather spend money up front and have a better car. But I also dont want to buy new.