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  1. Shelby GT350 Mustang Owners File New Class Action Lawsuit Against Ford for Fraud

    So honest question. What do you think the limp mode revelation has done to value of the base and Tech pack cars? Some on this thread are suggesting that if you bought a base or Tech pack and weren't happy once the limp mode issues came to light are not "reasonable automotive enthusiasts" and...
  2. Shelby GT350 Mustang Owners File New Class Action Lawsuit Against Ford for Fraud

    It does. I think there were 18 mentions of the word track in there and two of those were track pack. One mentioned the weight of the track pack and one mentioned the optional coolers. So they mentioned track or track capability 18 times and once mentioned the track pack gets optional coolers...
  3. Shelby GT350 Mustang Owners File New Class Action Lawsuit Against Ford for Fraud

    The Z06 overheating is absolutely an engineering failure. Does anyone actually think it is not?
  4. Shelby GT350 Mustang Owners File New Class Action Lawsuit Against Ford for Fraud

    https://media.ford.com/content/fordmedia/fna/us/en/products/cars/mustang/2016-gt350-350r-press-kit.html What about this one? You can't pick one or two pieces of advertisement that weakly support your argument. If it will stand up in court is another issue. I don't think this will, but feel...
  5. Shelby GT350 Mustang Owners File New Class Action Lawsuit Against Ford for Fraud

    Sort of similar to how a lot of the Ford advertisements speak of the GT350 as the most track capable mustang. I guess just like everyone was supposed to know that the track pack is the only one that is track capable, the general public should know that only the non-TP cars are overheating. I...
  6. Gt 5.0 vs 2017 Camaro 1LE

    Of course I am just making a joke about it. I didn't point out things where the Pill was right. I'm sure he predicted slow sales for the 6th gen and it certainly isn't selling well. He makes a lot of predictions so he is certainly going to be right every once in a while. It's the...
  7. Gt 5.0 vs 2017 Camaro 1LE

    Quick Recap: The Pill says: no way the Camaro hits its weight reduction target The Facts say: Camaro hits the target The Pill says: The fact that the SS 1LE will be classed in FS shows it does not significantly outperform the GT The Facts say: SS 1LE gets classed in AS The Pill Says...
  8. Mustang Shelby FP350S Unveiled.

    Very cool. Can't wait to hear some more details and see them in action.
  9. The New 2017 ZL1 Camaro

    I believe the 230lb weight loss was over the previous gen 1le (similarly equipped). Not sure if the car actually lost the weight or not. I don't believe that was a 230lb weight loss vs the 1SS. Is that the only thing you are basing the added structure off of or have you seen the added...
  10. '17 ZL1 Nürburgring Lap Time of 7:29:60...WOW...

    Anybody else find this really funny.
  11. 16 GT vs 16 SS, comparison after owning both

    Agreed, but all cars of the era were tire limited. I would just like to see once and for all how the american cars that get lambasted for only going in a straight line would stack up against the Europeans from the same era. I don't think the results would be exactly what the European auto...
  12. 16 GT vs 16 SS, comparison after owning both

    I think this is a generalization that needs to be crushed. The Mustangs, Camaros, and Corvettes have always had at least a few models with good (for their time) handling. Maybe the big block cars were tough to handle, but I would love to see somebody take a 69 Boss 302, 69 Z28, and any number...
  13. Time to Learn how to Drive Stick

    I "learned" on an old 4 cylinder ranger. That was rough. After that i would drive a manual trans car every once in a while and every time I got in I had to learn all over again. It's hard to really learn until you have a manual transmission car of your own though. Getting some practice...


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