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I am not singling out ford people. Its equally sad on both sides. I just hope im never at a point in my life where i am arguing about a 40 pound weight differential in a competing car like a village idiot

Its sad how many fan boys there are out there, obsessed with defending your car and trying to trash another. I mean, grown and ideally educated adults? Makes me not want to buy a mustang or camaro because of being lumped in with a stereotypical owner

If the first year of this mustang has various problems that have been documented here : cooled seat, electronics dying, Ac conking out, various rattles etc... Do they make improvements/fixes ASAP and introduce them the first available time, even in the first model year? Do they work on them all...

totally agree. Get over yourselves people. Think about stuff you do when you think no one is watching. Internet outrage culture

10/16?? you mean 9/16?

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If i could have the mustang exterior, camaro interior and 19 gallon tank, i would be so sold

lol looks like the chevy forum is down. Chevy fanbois all over calling in sick today!

omg ban car electronics!

Well i am planning on test driving some different cars: GT, m235i, gti/golfr. Today i did the call ahead on bmw and all i could drive was a 228i. It is basically a slower, cushier, non sport 235. It was pretty bad tbh. The salesman flat out lied like 5 times and said the 235 drives the exact...

Should I call in advance or do you guys just show up?

Ive had my current car for 10 years and am rusty with this. What are the norms and expectations of test drives. Do i need to call dealerships in advance and say i would like to test drive a car? Can i just show up say, in slower hours and ask about test driving? Do i need to be clear in...

great rims, those arent stock right

Are you saying the m235 specifically is unreliable or are you just going off of BMW reputation

If i could also ask your opinion on porsche labor rates, reliability, and cost of service/repairs versus other manufactures? My impression is that they are very reliable but when you do have to take it in for whatever reason it will be much more expensive vs others. Accurate?

Yea i think i got stuck with a guy who was a bit of a burnout. 11 years ago i remember searching message boards for this exact thread for my then new car and only found 1 or 2 recommendations so was rolling the dice a bit. Now we got yelp, message boards are 5x as trafficed etc, a lot more shops...

Did any of you have any rattles pop up after the tint job from sloppily taking off and putting back on the doors? Years ago i got my tint done by california tint in great falls(one man shop) and immediately i got an annoying passenger rattle that ive had to live with for 10 years!

koncealed are those factory rims?

How much do service managers make vs mechanics? I assume less?

what other fee's do dealerships tack on after you agree to XX price? Do you get sales guys trying to pull a fast one when you go in to sign ppw and they throw in doc fee or a misc dealer fee? Is that # inclusive of everything sans taxes?