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  1. Lol Dorkhorse $50k dealer markup?

    75-80K is C8 money. You can get a new 2024 2LT level C8 from MacMulkin right now for 13K off so they are coming in at around 75-80K. Colors are a little limited but red, silver, black, and blue are all in play. No way would I take a DH over a C8.
  2. Can't order a Dark Horse?

    Someone or a dealer actually ordered those wheels?! They are hideous...like a circle of spatulas. That would be a deal killer if they couldn't get rid of those wheels.
  3. GT350 vs Boss 302... Hear me out.

    Bottom line: the Mustang became world class with S550. Outside of thinking the 1st gen was cool as a classic, S550 was the only mustang to ever draw me in enough to buy one. The interiors became not just tolerable but respectable with the full complement of driver aids and nice-to-have features...
  4. GT350 vs Boss 302... Hear me out.

    Interesting discussion. I actually see the Mach 1 as more the spiritual successor to the Boss 302. I actually think the Mach 1 originally was going to be a Boss. In 2018, Ford showed a promotional poster that had the 2018 refresh and showed a Boss in the background. That is rarely not...
  5. Mach 1 Subframe

    The dual intake was in development for quite a while...I remember seeing that on a video about S650. Having it in testing in the Mach 1 would have been feasible. Pulling the dual carbon traps out of the Dark Horse nets about a 515-520 HP engine based on a dyno video I saw with the DH. It all...
  6. Mach 1 Subframe

    I know it has never been confirmed but I wholeheartedly believe the dual intake 5.0 was headed to the Mach 1. Early rumors by a usually respectable site said it would reach 525. It had the dual intakes that conveniently became fake yet everything else on that front end was purpose designed...
  7. Mach 1 Subframe

    Thought they would have learned from the Australian court case loss not to do the false advertising thing. That cost them a pretty penny.
  8. Mach 1 Subframe

    Thought the rear toe links on Mach 1 were from the 500. That is what all of the literature said including promo materials and the owner supplement.
  9. Mach 1 Subframe

    Was S197 unibody? They made it a point on the rollout of S550 that it got true subframes versus just crossmembers that S197 used in order to stiffen up the chassis.
  10. Features to be aware of before buying a modern car (New or Used)

    So Mach 1 top speed is odd. I have seen the AT listed at 166 mph or 155 mph with manual at 167 mph. An autobahn top speed run in an auto seems to verify it was indeed 166 so the 155 might have been a mistake in the owners manual likely due to the GT having a 155 limit for either transmission. I...
  11. 2021 Mach1 looking at a good buy ?

    Price is a little high for option level, but it is still a great buy. I am biased, but I have said this before and will die on the hill: Mach 1 is the best all-around mustang option reasonably available right now. Avoids the ridiculous screens and questionable Honda/Hyundai/Camaro styling of...
  12. Your Favorite boutique Car?

    Small shop built...then I too am going new gen Ford GT since it should be called the Multimatic Ford GT. The Huntsville car scene has grown to include a fair bit of Ferraris, Lambos, McLaren's etc. but I have never seen a new gen Ford GT here or a Pagani. Would love to be able to right one of...
  13. 2024 GT or not ?

    This has got to be the most overblown, ridiculous statement in this thread. Ford tried to go BMW and didn't come close-lost good actual Mustang heritage cues in the process. You got glued on iPads-not even good ones as they are laggy as hell. Hooray! Such modernity! Such innovation. Lol. The...
  14. 23 Mach 1 vs. 24 Dark Horse

    This is not even debatable. Seriously Camaro/Honda in front.-especially the Dark Horse. Camaro all over sides and rear (even the damn rear quarter lights/reflectors...did those really need to be rotated like a Camaro's?!). I would throw in some Hyundai with the severe crimp in the lights. It is...
  15. Cobb got nailed by the EPA

    So much govt overreach across the board. @#$% the EPA and DOE. We need to clean house.
  16. 2024 GT or not ?

    I hope they do an auto match up. Shows the S650 didn't make any real gains. The Mach 1 is slightly heavier and has more downforce. A Dark Horse match up would be cool to see too but that car is heavier. On a side note, the S550 rear end is so much better...that S650 Camaro bumper is way too busy...
  17. 2024 GT or not ?

    Every single exterior thing they did to S650 if it is not Hyundai or Honda influenced was in line with the 6th Gen Camaro. It is ridiculous. They even turned the little reflector light on the rear quarter panel in the same direction as a Camaro...we couldn't keep that going in the same direction...
  18. 2024 GT or not ?

    find a lightly used 21-23 Mustang Mach 1. Seriously peak mustang. I am biased of course but I truly think it brought it all together. I had a 16 GT as a comparison. Better exterior than S650, solid interior with more than enough tech if you get the premium, but you get an integrated screen with...
  19. Mustang V8 and cylinder deactivation system

    These are the same kind of idiots that likely resulted in the mustang getting glued on iPad screens versus any real beneficial digital upgrades like say a PDR that the Camaro had in 2016. They were probably in the S650 sensing/focus group.


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