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  1. GT500 CFTP vs 2024 Camaro Z28

    The LT6 is only 2 lbs heavier than the LT2 in the C8, which is an iteration of the LT1 in the Camaro (I mentioned that in one of my previous posts as well) so it's lighter than the supercharged LT4. Realistically I think low 3,700 lbs as well. But, digging deeper: ZLE gets full creature...
  2. GT500 CFTP vs 2024 Camaro Z28

    We’ve been over the weight. The supercharged ZLE M6 weighs ~3,840 lbs. Remove the supercharger and intercooling circuit and heat exchangers, and the car would weigh less. Not to mention the drivetrain for a 650 ft lbs supercharged would be plenty beefy enough for a NA V8. Add in other weight...
  3. 50 cat removed with dyno numbers

    Car and Driver Lightning lap: 2022 Golf R: 3:04.3, 2015 Mustang GT: 3:05.2. A 2015 Golf R went 3:12.3, not even close to a similar year GT. I doubt a regular Golf GTI is anywhere close to an R on a track. I think the Golf GTI probably feels quick since it’s lighter and has turbo torque, but...
  4. 2024 Darkhorse (tremec) vs 2023 Camaro ZL1 (tremec)

    The OEM fuel system on a ZL1 is good for up to around 700 whp, depending on the dyno. You can get more power with some fuel system upgrades without having to upgrade the HPFP, but certainly can go much higher with a fully upgraded fuel system and upgraded camshaft. Doesn't the Coyote need new...
  5. Vacuum gauge at WOT

    Theoretically the entire intake tract is in a vacuum or negative gauge pressure since there’s dynamic frictional losses through all the intake components even at WOT. So if it doesn’t reach zero that would be normal. It will always be below atmospheric pressure until downstream of combustion...
  6. front tires chords showing, what to do

    You could probably go 265/40 front and 285/40 rear. They’d be a little taller profile than stock but would fill in the fender gaps a little better. I wouldn’t recommend going 265/35 and 285/35 as the tire diameter would be too small, increasing the fender gap and a big change on your speedo and...
  7. GT500 CFTP vs 2024 Camaro Z28

    I could be down with a Z28 that has the ZLE wheel/tire setup (325s in the rear and lighter 19" wheels) and aero (but as I said previously, upgraded to produce equal or more downforce with less drag) and slightly more aggressive SS 1LE/ZL1 suspension but still livable, with the LT6 and ZL1 front...
  8. GT500 CFTP vs 2024 Camaro Z28

    But stiffer springs isn't the only difference between an SS and a GT. As far as the ZLE - GM calls it the "extreme track package" for a reason. It's not supposed to be comfy. My ZL1 isn't that stiff in tour mode. It's been a while since I drove my '18 Mustang GT PP1 w/ MagneRide, but from what I...
  9. Would you buy a 2021 GT500 with 9k Miles?

    Didn’t read all the replies…that said: buy it, drive it, keep it. There won’t be that much difference in value between a well kept 30k mile car and a well kept 25k mile car in a couple of years. Soap box moment: (not directed at OP) I don’t get people that are mileage freaks. Driving 1k/yr for...
  10. What would prevent you from buying the S650?

    The interior, front overhang, and the fact that its essentially just a refresh of the S550. I don't like how they didn't integrate the screens. Looks terrible. The front overhang looks like a bad front wheel drive car overhang. People will say they are the same and show photos (from slightly...
  11. GT500 CFTP vs 2024 Camaro Z28

    I think you're cherry-picking data a little bit. Most ZL1s trap about 125 mph, but I don't think most GT500s trap 132+ mph. Now I'm going off of memory here, but from what I can recall most GT500s are in the 129+/- mph range. There's several stock ZL1s in the 128-129 mph range on Camaro6 fast...
  12. GT500 CFTP vs 2024 Camaro Z28

    A CFTP is barely faster around a track than a ZLE, that's what we're talking about. Not higher speed acceleration which the GT500 wins handily. But, an A10 version of a 3,700 lbs Z28 with 650-670 hp would be very close in a straight line to a GT500 up to 130 mph when the extra power of the GT500...
  13. GT500 CFTP vs 2024 Camaro Z28

    First off, I don’t think a Z28 will happen. But just to throw out a few thoughts if it did: A ZL1 1LE M6 weighs 3,840 lbs with a full tank of fuel and a backseat. GT500 CFTP is 4,060 lbs with no backseat, CF wheels, and a smaller fuel tank. A Z28 with an LT6 would likely weigh around 3,720 lbs...
  14. Upgrade or switch cars? (DD, occasional track)

    Hmm, weird, is that why my friend in his GT350 can’t keep up with me on twisty roads? Too much straight line speed?:wink:
  15. Upgrade or switch cars? (DD, occasional track)

    To me the answer for you is clear: 6th Gen Camaro SS 1LE. It’s a more buttoned down car than even a GT350, and a lot less money. It’s heavy-ish but ~100 lbs lighter than a Bullitt. Go test drive one and tell us what you think. I think there’s a guy on here that tracks his cars and invested...
  16. Upgrade or switch cars? (DD, occasional track)

    That's well and all, except I didn't see where he ever said he just wants to go faster (maybe I missed it in a later post). He specifically said he wants a more buttoned down and fun to drive car. There's a lot of cars with much better handling than the PP1/Bullitt w/ MagneRide. And there's no...
  17. Upgrade or switch cars? (DD, occasional track)

    I’m writing on my phone so I can’t get too detailed. Disclaimer that I don’t track my cars, but drive spiritedly on mountain back roads. I had a 2018 GT premium PP1 w/A10 and MagneRide; so essentially the same as a Bullitt. I now have a ‘21 ZL1 and a ‘22 Supra 3.0. Quick comparison: the GT felt...
  18. Confusion at dealer, oil overfilled

    That’s ridiculous. In this day and age they can’t bother the computer to put the right oil weight on the invoice?
  19. Car Douches???

    To each their own, but if they look terrible then why does my '22 Supra 3.0 get so much positive attention? People constantly taking pictures, random people taking videos of it driving by, thumbs up and stares, compliments everywhere, etc. And that's all in just the last 2 weeks (I've owned the...
  20. 285 vs 305 Rears

    Those front tire sizes (275/30/19) are too small in diameter and will result in a large fender gap and won’t look good. I’d go 255/40, 265/40, or 275/35/19 on the fronts. 295/35/19 on the rear should look pretty meaty. For pricing, check out the continental, Firestones, or Goodyears that were...


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