dragonacc
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That's my guess too.My guess is the baffles help with the sound of the sloshing.
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That's my guess too.My guess is the baffles help with the sound of the sloshing.
Basically Mishimotos point is that Ford didn't put those baffle the tank to save costs, so there must be another reason. So they tested it.Isn't the tank there for coolant expansion? Its not a fuel tank with a motor that needs a constant supply or the engine will blow up.
I'm not saying the Mishimoto tank isn't well thought out, but I highly doubt having your coolant slosh around in the tank is a big deal. They appear to be the only ones with the baffles and replacement tanks aren't something new.
Just a thought.
If you look where the coolant leaves the tank there's nearly no way the pickup tube would ever not be covered by coolant no matter how hard you corner even without baffles. The only way I could see cornering forces being enough to uncover the "pickup" tube would be if you are running real low on coolant.Basically Mishimotos point is that Ford didn't put those baffle the tank to save costs, so there must be another reason. So they tested it.
It appears that under heavy maneuvering without baffles the coolant can all slosh to one side of the tank and leave the intake port on the bottom of the tank so it sucks in air. Pulling air into the cooling system isn't good especially under aggressive driving conditions.
I guess you missed the point of the post. Time is money. It seems too much engineering (time) has gone into this product, which really requires no 'engineering' at all. Any crap fab shop can throw these things together for next to nothing.:doh::doh:
Lean Manufacturing is a wonderful thing. We are in the aftermarket Mustang scene to produce high quality parts at reasonable pricing, not to get rich off our comrades. The benefit of putting the time in on the front end is that you do it once and do it right. If I want to run a new batch of 100 coolant tanks all I do is send the engineering drawings out to my manufacturers and sit back and wait for the assembled tanks to come in.I guess you missed the point of the post. Time is money. It seems too much engineering (time) has gone into this product, which really requires no 'engineering' at all. Any crap fab shop can throw these things together for next to nothing.
Great for the consumer...get 'em while you can...you'll be able to say you have the most advanced and thoroughly analyzed overflow bottle produced. Once these guys realize building car parts to 'aerospace' requirements (as they've stated in the past) is a waste of time and effort, if they're smart, they won't offer something like this again. Gotta make sure the tabs don't bear out assuming a 9g crash load...
Personally, assuming an engineering rate of $130/hr, I can't see a relatively low volume product of this nature paying for itself at $160ish.
Do you have a ship date yet? I'm ready to get rid of that crappy tank.Lean Manufacturing is a wonderful thing. We are in the aftermarket Mustang scene to produce high quality parts at reasonable pricing, not to get rich off our comrades. The benefit of putting the time in on the front end is that you do it once and do it right. If I want to run a new batch of 100 coolant tanks all I do is send the engineering drawings out to my manufacturers and sit back and wait for the assembled tanks to come in.
To touch on the baffled tank concept. I'm glad other people are considering all factors when designing a product, but in this case the additional cost seems a bit unnecessary. Take a look at the big dogs, in regards to the coolant tanks (Moroso and Canton). You will not find any baffled tanks or any reported problems with people running their tanks. I know several people who competitively compete in drag and autocross with a non-baffled tank. It's all about your center of gravity... take a glass of water and spin in a circle. The water will stay exactly where it is when you have it sitting flat on a desk. I am yet to hear of any problems. Honestly, I'd be more worried about the baffles causing an issue. Seems like a lot more things could go wrong with an improper baffle design.
On a different note, I'm very excited to get these tanks out. They are looking great and I'm sure everybody will be happy!
Speaking as an insider, welcome to how aerospace works...Do you have a ship date yet? I'm ready to get rid of that crappy tank.
Do you have a ship date yet? I'm ready to get rid of that crappy tank.
Welder sent the tanks straight to anodizing to avoid double shipping. I'm waiting to hear back on the ship date. I will update you guys as soon as I find out.Speaking as an insider, welcome to how aerospace works...