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Keeping Your EB Cool! Aluminum Radiator Development by Mishimoto!

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Hey guys,

We've started development of an awesome aluminum radiator for the EB Mustang. Check out the details on our blog or posted within this thread!

http://engineering.mishimoto.com/category/ford-mustang-2-3l-ecoboost-aluminum-radiator-2015/

Mustang EcoBoost Aluminum Radiator R&D, Part 1: Initial Development

In an effort to give your Mustang optimal cooling performance, the bright minds at Mishimoto have embarked upon a mission to develop an efficient radiator solution for the EB. It is only a matter of time before high-powered EcoBoost models begin hitting the track, necessitating a cooling solution that outperforms the stock radiator.

Luckily we have our own 2015 Mustang shop vehicle for product design and testing. We also have a local enthusiasts who is kind enough to loan us his automatic EcoBoost for test fitting with the transmission cooler location on the S550.

Stock Radiator
EcoBoost owners have two radiator options from the factory. The Performance Package (PP) models are equipped with a slightly thicker radiator for greater cooling efficiency. We will need to take this into account for the design of our radiator. We will also want to pick up a base model radiator so we can perform comparison tests of all three radiators.
First, we set to work removing our PP radiator from the vehicle.


Radiator removal begins

Luckily the process is relatively quick thanks to the spacious engine bay of the EB.


Stock radiator removed


Stock radiator removed

Performance Package Radiator

Once it was out we could get a good look at the PP radiator.


Performance Package radiator


Performance Package radiator


Performance Package radiator

The radiator for the EB is quite unique. You will notice it features legs mounted on each side of the bottom of the end tanks, which extend downward to mount to the radiator support. This space below the actual radiator core is occupied by the intercooler. The inlet and outlet of this radiator do not include any unique quick-disconnect fittings as we’ve seen on some other recent vehicles. This vehicle features standard hose connections with clamps. A few fan shroud mounting points and AC condenser clips are the only other distinguishable features for this component.

Check out a few more shots!


Performance Package radiator end tank


Performance Package radiator end tank

Below are a few specs for this radiator core.



And a close-up shot of the core itself!


Performance Package radiator core

Base Radiator

As noted above, the base model EB features a slightly thinner radiator compared to the PP. We ordered one in order to check fitment as well as perform some road testing once we have a finalized prototype. Check out the specs as well as a few shots shown below.


Base model radiator


Base model radiator




Base model radiator

Why The Radiator Difference?

Although the PP model does not feature greater power or boost, it does have a variety of more race-oriented upgrades, including the suspension, wheels, brakes, and traction control system. By including a larger radiator, Ford may be implying that the PP model is more likely to see track driving or frequent aggressive street driving and recognized the need for improved cooling. This is especially true considering the stock EB does not come equipped with an oil cooler at any trim level. If the PP includes a slightly larger radiator, surely an even larger aluminum radiator would be a beneficial upgrade for any EB-equipped vehicle.

Data Collection

Before beginning the design of our aluminum counterpart, we put the stock (PP) radiator on our coordinate measuring machine (CMM) table and set to work capturing some of the critical dimensions and component locations.


Stock radiator on CMM table


Stock radiator on CMM table

Coming Up!

Next time we will cover the features and specs of our plans for an aluminum radiator. We will also post a few shots of our 3D models. For now, we leave you with the rendering below!


Mishimoto radiator 3D render

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This was the thread I have been waiting for. Subbed!

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Is the new radiator likely going to a thin 2 row?
 

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Nice anime drawing :p
Thanks Surtur!

This was the thread I have been waiting for. Subbed!

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Is the new radiator likely going to a thin 2 row?
Great! We will likely be going with a 3-row core for our radiator. :cheers:

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Great write up, thanks!
Thanks for taking a look Jeffrey!

Looking forward to the end results.
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Yea this radiator is going to be awesome. Combine it with the intercooler and oil cooler and I can't imagine how you'd ever have heat problems
 
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3 row? Holy crap! Car will never get above 170F. EVER!
Haha! The thermostat should still provide appropriate engine coolant temperatures. That being said, our radiator will certainly be more efficient at keeping those temperatures low during stressful driving conditions (autocross, track days, etc.).

Yea this radiator is going to be awesome. Combine it with the intercooler and oil cooler and I can't imagine how you'd ever have heat problems
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Will the upgraded silicone hoses you sell currently be included with the purchase of your aluminum radiator when it becomes available?
 

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Any updates? I am sure FFtec and Adam would love to get a hold of one of these for their block buster cars. I know I am.
 

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John, first of all I love these threads and all of the research and engineering you guys do. I read and follow every one of them and more importantly appreciate that you share with the community.

With that said, please don't take this as negative, seriously just curious. Why do you say, "If the PP includes a slightly larger radiator, surely an even larger aluminum radiator would be a beneficial upgrade for any EB-equipped vehicle."? Has any of your research shown that the PP radiator isn't able to keep up with the cooling demands? That would be interesting data to include I think.
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