Anybody buying this media fueled COVID-19 bull schitt?

[GT 550]

Hi Jay, I trust the statistics you're using to inform your probability calcs are derived from very good, updated and reliable data where it concerns things like field hospitals 100% opening in your area if the hospitals are overrun. Remember this isn't like driving or flying accident data which is relatively reliable and long term to the extent it can be used to inform future trends, no one really knows where the virus situation is heading as the data doesn't exist to support even the most elastic of predictions.

I beg to differ that hope can generate bad outcomes, but I do agree that 'hope is not a method' to quote General Sullivan, US Army.

If you're old enough to recall the AIDS lecture you'd also be able to recall the outrageous money spent and panic caused in 1999 preparing for the supposed threat posed by the Y2K bug. Or the 1973 oil crisis when folks were told oil was running out. Maybe Covid will stop the world but all I'm suggesting is that before you make decisions be sure the data you use to make those decisions is good and current.

Sponsored

 

[Weather Man]

Get a x-ray and go home.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/jamesc...19-using-low-doses-of-radiation/#425437e8dc69

 

[Weather Man]

Gilead's remdesivir cut mortality risk 62% in COVID-19 study
Jul. 10, 2020 9:08 AM ET|About: Gilead Sciences, Inc. (GILD)|By: Douglas W. House, SA News Editor


Gilead Sciences (NASDAQ:GILD) reports additional data on remdesivir that includes a comparative analysis of the Phase 3 SIMPLE-Severe study and a real-world retrospective cohort of severely ill COVID-19 patients. The results are being presented virtually at the 23rd International AIDS Conference.

Treatment with remdesivir was associated with a 62% reduction in mortality compared to standard-of-care (SOC) treatment. 74.4% of treated patients recovered by day 14 versus 59.0% of those receiving SOC. Remdesivir demonstrated its superiority to SOC in terms of mortality rate, 7.6% at day 14 versus 12.5% in patients not receiving the antiviral.

The study assessed five-day and 10-day dosing regimens of remdesivir administered intravenously.

Patients who received hydroxychloroquine in addition to remdesivir experienced lower recovery rates (57% vs. 69%) compared to those who received remdesivir without the malaria drug. Concomitant use of hydroxychloroquine was not associated with a higher mortality rate in the 14 days analysis window.

Results from its remdesivir compassionate use program showed that 83% of pediatric patients and 92% of pregnant and postpartum women with a broad spectrum of COVID-19 severity recovered by day 28.

 

[SplawnDarts]

It almost seems that someone has decided that the masses aren't worried enough yet and had to come up with something new.

That's exactly what's going on. I can't speak for every state, but I know the data for mine well. We're seeing a sizable increase in cases in this so-called second wave, and little increase in hospitalizations and NO increase in deaths. That leaves only a few possibilities:

• The statistics are somehow being manipulated to create more "cases" of people who aren't really sick (possibly counting positive antibody tests?)
• We're just testing more, and testing people who mostly aren't sick and are /at zero risk of dying but some small percent of them are low or no symptom positives so cases go way up.
• The disease itself has become radically less dangerous

The reality is that we've got an average of about 5 people/day dying of coronavirus, and in a typical year about 2-3 people/day die from influenza. So this is a little scary, but not worth doing the slightest bit of economic damage to prevent.

Meanwhile the news is full of the scariest stories they can cobble together. Today's paper has some clown from the university claiming we should prevent people from being the same room together. This is probably his bid not to have to teach a class next semester either, but still...

 

[Briebee72]

Well from the start I have said its not what they are saying. I work in hospitals and I talk with my fellow grads who work around the country. All this covid stuff.... there are a few in hospitals but no more then for anything else. My one good friend works in Chicago where they were saying it was really bad on the news. I asked her and she said they arent seeing anything like what the news is saying in her hospital. IN the area I live and I travel back and forth across the state. I talk to people and no one I know or that they know of has had covid. Sure there are cases but... if it was as bad as they say would not the hospital workers and people you know at least someone would have it? Now like in many other areas its coming out that in our local hospitals they are back peddling and admitting a lot of people that died of other things they listed as covid when it wasnt. Many many many rich people are getting richer off us by keeping us scared an at home. they keep saying oh the economy and the jobs.... its all bullshit. other then restaurants and movie theaters. I dont knwo a single person who lost their job they even made more money then usually cause of more over time and hazard pay and all that other BS. The stock market has been at all time highs. the rich have gotten three times richer. and even the unemployed got 600 extra a week and 1200 stimulus.... bad economy? Most everyone I know employed or not has more free cash now then they ever have had.

Matter of fact most people now have so much free cash they are paying off debt and stopping credit cards. so much so its actually hurting those industries. and guess what you do to make people get back in debt and using those credit cards again.... yeah a national change shortage.. sorry we cant take cash you have to use a card... bullshit. where did the change go? is it in everyone couches?

If everyone is so broke and the economy is so bad then why has amazon tripled profit? thats a lot of spending by broke people.

this covid has been used to make the rich richer and take your money. paper towels now costing 12 bucks... toilet paper 15.... beef is the most expensive its ever been yet the cattle are being bought at record lows. its all bullshit.

STOP WATCHING THE NEWS!!!!!!

People need to go and read how unemployment numbers work. it too is complete bullshit. the unemployment rate. is the percent of employable people who are currently looking for work. which last time i checked the numbers was little less then 1/3rd of the population of the US. So those numbers dont even count about 200 million people. Ever wonder why you go out during a week day and everything is full? Every restaurant every store. cause a good 2/3rds of the country dosent have a day job cause they aint looking for one.. so when they say the unemployment rate is 13% that includes about 14.3 million people but when compared to the total US population its really only 4.3 percent.

 

[SplawnDarts]

I can pull the total number of critical care ventilators available in the state, the number in use (for any purpose), and roughly the number in use by COVID19 patients and I know for a fact that only a small fraction of ventilated patients have COVID19. Of the 276 ventilators in use in the state yesterday, give or take 40 are people who are COVID19 positive and even some of those may be ventilated for an unrelated reason.

The hospitals are basically empty and bleeding money because everything elective has been postponed and lots of scared patients aren't coming in for stuff they should go in for.

 

[Stage_3]

Well from the start I have said its not what they are saying. I work in hospitals and I talk with my fellow grads who work around the country. All this covid stuff.... there are a few in hospitals but no more then for anything else. My one good friend works in Chicago where they were saying it was really bad on the news. I asked her and she said they arent seeing anything like what the news is saying in her hospital. IN the area I live and I travel back and forth across the state. I talk to people and no one I know or that they know of has had covid. Sure there are cases but... if it was as bad as they say would not the hospital workers and people you know at least someone would have it? Now like in many other areas its coming out that in our local hospitals they are back peddling and admitting a lot of people that died of other things they listed as covid when it wasnt. Many many many rich people are getting richer off us by keeping us scared an at home. they keep saying oh the economy and the jobs.... its all bullshit. other then restaurants and movie theaters. I dont knwo a single person who lost their job they even made more money then usually cause of more over time and hazard pay and all that other BS. The stock market has been at all time highs. the rich have gotten three times richer. and even the unemployed got 600 extra a week and 1200 stimulus.... bad economy? Most everyone I know employed or not has more free cash now then they ever have had.

Matter of fact most people now have so much free cash they are paying off debt and stopping credit cards. so much so its actually hurting those industries. and guess what you do to make people get back in debt and using those credit cards again.... yeah a national change shortage.. sorry we cant take cash you have to use a card... bullshit. where did the change go? is it in everyone couches?

If everyone is so broke and the economy is so bad then why has amazon tripled profit? thats a lot of spending by broke people.

this covid has been used to make the rich richer and take your money. paper towels now costing 12 bucks... toilet paper 15.... beef is the most expensive its ever been yet the cattle are being bought at record lows. its all bullshit.

STOP WATCHING THE NEWS!!!!!!

People need to go and read how unemployment numbers work. it too is complete bullshit. the unemployment rate. is the percent of employable people who are currently looking for work. which last time i checked the numbers was little less then 1/3rd of the population of the US. So those numbers dont even count about 200 million people. Ever wonder why you go out during a week day and everything is full? Every restaurant every store. cause a good 2/3rds of the country dosent have a day job cause they aint looking for one.. so when they say the unemployment rate is 13% that includes about 14.3 million people but when compared to the total US population its really only 4.3 percent.

BINGO MY MAN!!!
You're spot on. My buddy that works security in a well known casino says that the banks don't have loose change. It's like a shortage of change out there. It's weird. lol

As far as people having money to spend, it's ABSOLUTELY true!! Until the end of this month and then we're going to see a big decline in economic stability. It's going to go down and go down fast. I'm one of those ones that is MAKING A KILLING during this Chinese virus! I'm on furlough and I work 2 days a week. So, between the unemployment insurance benefits and me working just 2 days a week, I'm clearing a "G", every week. Big money for just working 2 days a week, until that 600 "Federal help" money runs out, then the Country is fucked, unless we open it up!
I've sent 4 grand towards my monthly car payment in 2 months, so 2 grand a month! LMFAO It's crazy. I paid off my vehicle insurance off for the year as well. It's pretty crazy with what's going on out there.

 

[Bikeman315]

FINALLY!!!!

 

[JCFoster]

Meth sales

Because I never said it, COVID 19 was never a hoax.

Japan has less than 1,000 COVID 19 deaths. They never went into a full economic shutdown. They have an unemployment rate of 2.6%. How did they do it you might ask? Virtually everyone wears a mask and has gone through this procedure before. Also, they used flex hours and other 'advanced' methods to help with social distancing. Sadly, too 'advanced' for a decent size of Americans.

Now, let me hear the fools yell 'but the CDC said!' Guess what? Other countries also changed their stance on masks and most are fine because they followed the science. If Trump had listened to medical experts from the get-go, we would've controlled the pandemic and he'd most likely be costing to re-election right now. But here he is about to lose to 'sleepy' Joe Biden. What a fucking pathetic situation.[/QUOTE

Japan is a whole different culture. Are their roads littered with beer cans and fast food trash? No. We could go on. We’re a completely different animal. We as a nation are fk’ing pathetic society and we’re more divided now than ever.

 

[IPOGT]

Meth sales[/QUOTE

We have a nation of imported spoiled crybabies who, never give anything of themselves, want everything their own way and don't volunteer for anything and couldn't care less about the USA or anyone else but themselves.
I don't think volunteer fire departments, reserve police or even the boy scouts will survive.
Religion is being destroyed, police are being attacked, bad is good and good is bad.
Political parties are voting in people who want to completely dismantle American society.
I don't like everything Trump does either, but Biden IS a trojan horse and the furthering and emboldening of that agenda is absolutely frightening.

 

[Burkey]

Please tell me Fox News are making this up.
https://www.foxnews.com/us/texas-hospital-died-covid-party

 

[Bikeman315]

Please tell me Fox News are making this up.
https://www.foxnews.com/us/texas-hospital-died-covid-party

Unfortunately no. Reported by a number of news outlets. We are so screwed.

 

[HoosierDaddy]

Unfortunately no. Reported by a number of news outlets. We are so screwed.

Yeah, he must have been out sick the day school taught it was stupid to play Russian roulette even if there are a thousand empty chambers.

 

[Burkey]

Yeah, he must have been out sick the day school taught it was stupid to play Russian roulette even if there are a thousand empty chambers.

So he’s not stupid, just very, very, very unlucky and very, very dead. Condolences to his loved ones. Wonder if they’ll play the game?

 

[Timeless]

FINALLY!!!!

So what's next on the orange man bad list?

Sponsored