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What a tragic post

Do you not see the ill chosen, aggressive, dismissive right wing rhetoric you post is one of the very reasons why the US is in so much trouble ? I don't hate America - I dislike extremists from right or left or any other form of extremism.

If I or others don't agree with your extreme views, we must be semi retarded, paid, left wing trolls ! Or are you a semi retarded, paid right wing troll I wonder :like:

Or maybe you are one of these ?

I had a semi-lengthy reply locked and loaded but I feel that you dealt with it adequately enough that I don’t need to say too much.

Had to laugh when the accusation became that I might not live in Australia. At this point, it wouldn’t shock me if this guy was to assert that Australia isn’t even a real place.
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The problem comes when trying to debate with extremists (who usually don't realise they are extremists (left / right / religious) is that they have the following characteristics and it makes discussions quite difficult as they will not change their views or even see that other views are viable. You cannot change the mind of an extremist very easily hence the reason deradicalisation is so difficult. Luckily most of the world holds more considered and moderate views (including in the US) and it is these moderates who actually decide who governs (extreme right and left will never change their views and so cancel each other out)

The irony is that I have seen no evidence of extreme left wing posting on here (plenty of right wing) or at least not on a level that would be considered left wing in the UK. (Obama would be centre right in the UK - that is how right biased the US is) That isn't to say that you don't have left of your centre people in the US just that the whole political setup is skewed to the right compared to many other countries.

Extremist traits
  • Both are against any compromise with the other side.
  • Both are entirely sure of their position.
  • Both advocate and sometimes use violence to achieve their ends.
  • Both are nationalistic.
  • Both are intolerant of dissent within their group.
  • Both demonize the other side
Can’t say that I recall seeing any extreme left ideals being promoted here either.
If a socialised healthcare system qualifies as extreme left, that would be fairly telling of just how far to the right some of these people might be,
 

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What a tragic post

Do you not see the ill chosen, aggressive, dismissive right wing rhetoric you post is one of the very reasons why the US is in so much trouble ? I don't hate America - I dislike extremists from right or left or any other form of extremism.

If I or others don't agree with your extreme views, we must be semi retarded, paid, left wing trolls ! Or are you a semi retarded, paid right wing troll I wonder :like:

Or maybe you are one of these ?
Do you hate America? I honestly could care less. You do comment on America as if you have a right to an opinion on America. Your shitty island would be speaking German if it was not for America, twice. Great Britain is the asshole of the earth, you pricks invaded 178 countries, robbed people, enslaved millions, ruined lives of people over the entire globe. Your country is the AIDS and Corona virus of civilization with a little prostate cancer for good measure.

Your cruddy island was the largest drug trafficker on earth for more than TWO CENTURIES, you people used the entire country of India to grow opium and addicted millions of Chinese, destroying their country as well. By 1838, the British were shipping 5,600,000 pounds of opium a year to China and the Chinese government had to declare war to try and stop it, hence the Opium wars of 1839-1860. Colombians took their lead from your Queen when they started their dope empires.

Yeah, we have a few issues in the states, dealing with the legacy of slavery left here by the British is one of them. Fighting off Marxists funded by people like George Soros is another recent project. But, you live in a glass house and before you come here to complain about America, you should take a closer look at the country you live in and it's history.
 

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Do you hate America? I honestly could care less. You do comment on America as if you have a right to an opinion on America. Your shitty island would be speaking German if it was not for America, twice. Great Britain is the asshole of the earth, you pricks invaded 178 countries, robbed people, enslaved millions, ruined lives of people over the entire globe. Your country is the AIDS and Corona virus of civilization with a little prostate cancer for good measure.

Your cruddy island was the largest drug trafficker on earth for more than TWO CENTURIES, you people used the entire country of India to grow opium and addicted millions of Chinese, destroying their country as well. By 1838, the British were shipping 5,600,000 pounds of opium a year to China and the Chinese government had to declare war to try and stop it, hence the Opium wars of 1839-1860. Colombians took their lead from your Queen when they started their dope empires.

Yeah, we have a few issues in the states, dealing with the legacy of slavery left here by the British is one of them. Fighting off Marxists funded by people like George Soros is another recent project. But, you live in a glass house and before you come here to complain about America, you should take a closer look at the country you live in and it's history.
Why would he not be entitled to an opinion on America? Are you in charge of who should have opinions and what those opinions should be? You sound a lot like someone who holds extreme ideologies. As if ANY threat to your ideas must be quashed immediately, just in case some of the arguments start to make sense.
The more insane your posts become, the less attention we give them. You’re still entitled to your opinions of course, it’s just that we don’t have to give a fuck what they might be.
Stay rational.
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Prove me wrong??? I'll include links to your drug trafficking past.

https://www.britannica.com/topic/opium-trade

How ironic...............................listed in the encyclopedia Britannica of all place,,,hahahahaha. Brits forced a nation to become drug addicts at the point of a gun,,hmmmmmmm.

................." The first war, between Britain and China (1839–42), did not legalize the trade, but it did halt Chinese efforts to stop it. In the second Opium War (1856–60)—fought between a British-French alliance and China—the Chinese government was forced to legalize the trade, though it did levy a small import tax on opium. "


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_wars_involving_the_United_Kingdom

Rotten limeys fought with 171 of the 193 countries of the earth..............................

http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/slavery/pdf/britain-and-the-trade.pdf

Portugal and Britain were the two most ‘successful’ slave-trading countries accounting for about 70% of all Africans transported to the Americas. Britain was the most dominant between 1640 and 1807 when the British slave trade was abolished. It is estimated that Britain transported 3.1 million Africans (of whom 2.7 million arrived) to the British colonies in the Caribbean, North and South America and to other countries.

I'm not extreme in the least, I just find it ironic that people with appalling histories, like you for instance are suddenly all pious and place yourself above everyone else.

For instance, Democrats formed the KKK, fought for slavery and created segregation, Democrats fought to destroy the civil rights of black Americans every step of the way, until about 1980. Now, democrats claim that wasn't them, it was a subset of Democrats who are now Republicans or some such silly shit. They demand we ignore their past and accept their new version of their history.

We cannot have a statue of Thomas Jefferson because he owned slaves, therefore anything with his name on it must be purged from history. Poor Tom did something perfectly legal in 1805 but since it is frowned upon 220 years later he must be purged. Think about the irony of that for a minute. These days it is practically a crime to say the name Thomas Jefferson, why isn't it a crime to be a Democrat or to use the world "Democrat" after all Democrats have a terrible history of lynching blacks, looting black owned businesses and raping black women.

My question is easy. Why is it still acceptable to be a Democrat? If we are getting rid of the Washington Redskins and the Cleveland Indians for being racist symbols, we cannot watch "Gone with the Wind" because it is racist, even though the first black Academy Award winner starred in that movie. Why can we still have Democrats?

Imagine if the NAZI party declared for Joe Biden tomorrow.......................................would they be allowed to openly campaign for him as NAZI's for Biden? I mean sure they have a horrible past................but now they are just like Democrats, right?

I'm just questioning leftist logic.
 

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If only this wasn’t true
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Yeah, because that will make your racist, slave peddling, drug trafficking history a lot better.

Why do you assume people are better when they support a Marxist? Better at what? Mass murder for sure. 130,000,000 people murdered by communists and somehow this has become the go to religion of leftists.


https://hawaii.edu/powerkills/COM.ART.HTM

I bet this article gets disappeared as soon as the rewrite of history gets to this website.
 
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Do you hate America? I honestly could care less. You do comment on America as if you have a right to an opinion on America. Your shitty island would be speaking German if it was not for America, twice. Great Britain is the asshole of the earth, you pricks invaded 178 countries, robbed people, enslaved millions, ruined lives of people over the entire globe. Your country is the AIDS and Corona virus of civilization with a little prostate cancer for good measure.

Your cruddy island was the largest drug trafficker on earth for more than TWO CENTURIES, you people used the entire country of India to grow opium and addicted millions of Chinese, destroying their country as well. By 1838, the British were shipping 5,600,000 pounds of opium a year to China and the Chinese government had to declare war to try and stop it, hence the Opium wars of 1839-1860. Colombians took their lead from your Queen when they started their dope empires.

Yeah, we have a few issues in the states, dealing with the legacy of slavery left here by the British is one of them. Fighting off Marxists funded by people like George Soros is another recent project. But, you live in a glass house and before you come here to complain about America, you should take a closer look at the country you live in and it's history.
What an obnoxious arrogant response.

Of course I have a 'right to an opinion' on the US. You control who is allowed to have opinions now do you ? I would go back to the extremist traits and look in the mirror - you satisfy most of them !

The rest is just childish gibberish that isn't worth responding to.
 
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Prove me wrong??? I'll include links to your drug trafficking past.
Not sure who you are talking t other than yourself? Burkey is an Australian in case that escaped your notice and I wasn't responding at the time of your reply.
 

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Not sure who you are talking t other than yourself? Burkey is an Australian in case that escaped your notice and I wasn't responding at the time of your reply.

I'm talking to the scum of the British Commonwealth. You spend your days here disparaging our President and 50% of the country and you have Boris Johnson running your shit show. You and your Aussie buddy think anyone who does not support Marxism or some other far left ideology is mentally deranged. I think Marxism sucks. As an American, I think the Bill of Rights is the foundation of our freedoms, so when the modern Democrat/socialist/communist starts talking about taking away Constitutional Rights, I start thinking about voting for someone who will not. Funny thing, in our Bill of Rights is does not limit rights based on race or gender, everyone gets the same rights. I object to people getting special rights.

Joe Biden is a stunning racist and a pedophile, his history of publicly fondling children and other people's wives is well known. Sexual harassment complaints from his past just disappear like magic. He had the nerve to tell black Americans, they "ain't black if they don't vote for him". While the media pushes it as a joke, it wasn't a joke when he said it. It was the white Democrat master telling his slaves how to vote. Warning them to obey their master.

Will Trump win again? That really is not the question. If you were an American, the question would be, How do we address the threat of a far left movement that is led by billionaires who own and operate some of the biggest and most evil corporations on earth and are working in unison against the American public? A stunning amount of information the media reports is out right lies, disinformation and half truth. Good luck using a search engine to find honest results, especially Google. Russia collusion? Russians worked to get Hillary elected, the FBI pushed anti-Trump FISA warrant abuses based on a dossier the Russians gave to Hillary. The left is mad, because they rigged an election and still lost.

You come here and talk crap all day and on every available political thread, calling people racist and denying your horrible country and its racist, drug peddling history, ignoring your idiot Prime Minister. The thing is your country is sooooooooooooooooooooooooo RACIST that Prince Harry has to live in my country with his mixed race wife. We are supposed to be terrible, but your own royals have fled to our country.

Childish gibberish..............................when the light is shined on you. How many racist statues populate your country? Thousands I bet, celebrated slave traders and knighted drug peddlers who addicted the largest nation on earth to opium, so much pride there.
 

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I'm talking to the scum of the British Commonwealth. You spend your days here disparaging our President and 50% of the country and you have Boris Johnson running your shit show. You and your Aussie buddy think anyone who does not support Marxism or some other far left ideology is mentally deranged. I think Marxism sucks. As an American, I think the Bill of Rights is the foundation of our freedoms, so when the modern Democrat/socialist/communist starts talking about taking away Constitutional Rights, I start thinking about voting for someone who will not. Funny thing, in our Bill of Rights is does not limit rights based on race or gender, everyone gets the same rights. I object to people getting special rights.

Joe Biden is a stunning racist and a pedophile, his history of publicly fondling children and other people's wives is well known. Sexual harassment complaints from his past just disappear like magic. He had the nerve to tell black Americans, they "ain't black if they don't vote for him". While the media pushes it as a joke, it wasn't a joke when he said it. It was the white Democrat master telling his slaves how to vote. Warning them to obey their master.

Will Trump win again? That really is not the question. If you were an American, the question would be, How do we address the threat of a far left movement that is led by billionaires who own and operate some of the biggest and most evil corporations on earth and are working in unison against the American public? A stunning amount of information the media reports is out right lies, disinformation and half truth. Good luck using a search engine to find honest results, especially Google. Russia collusion? Russians worked to get Hillary elected, the FBI pushed anti-Trump FISA warrant abuses based on a dossier the Russians gave to Hillary. The left is mad, because they rigged an election and still lost.

You come here and talk crap all day and on every available political thread, calling people racist and denying your horrible country and its racist, drug peddling history, ignoring your idiot Prime Minister. The thing is your country is sooooooooooooooooooooooooo RACIST that Prince Harry has to live in my country with his mixed race wife. We are supposed to be terrible, but your own royals have fled to our country.

Childish gibberish..............................when the light is shined on you. How many racist statues populate your country? Thousands I bet, celebrated slave traders and knighted drug peddlers who addicted the largest nation on earth to opium, so much pride there.
Sooooooo many assumptions about me and the UK none of which you have a clue about, but suits your agenda to say them.

The reason our PM is an idiot is because he models himself on Trump !

Have you ever heard of moderate, middle of the road views / voters ? You would no doubt denounce them as ''sheep' in you usual demeaning way. There are good and bad things about left and right and it is possible to run by consensus in moderation. All words and terms completely alien to you.

Just remember you are completely unimportant when it comes to voting. Your extreme right views are matched by the extreme left wing people and as mentioned before, extremists never change their views no matter how strong the evidence presented to them. Elections are won by what we call 'floating voters' and you call 'sheep' - these are people who vote differently throughout their life based on the events and information at each election. These moderate middle of the road people actually decide the vote. Modern election campaigns know all about this and target these people to swing them in their favour. They also try and get people to vote who don't normally if they think they will support their side.

Many $/ÂŁ millions are used by both sides to encourage these voters and those millionaire business men sit on both sides of the fence, all with their vested interests. You are in dreamland if you think the left is the only one spending money on half truths and fake news.
 

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Great Britain is the asshole of the earth, you pricks invaded 178 countries, robbed people, enslaved millions, ruined lives of people over the entire globe. Your country is the AIDS and Corona virus of civilization with a little prostate cancer for good measure.
While this opinion seems to be widely accepted today and taught in most schools outside the UK, the truth is a bit more nuanced. I also used to think that the British empire was a bad thing, but now I'm not so sure anymore. The effects of the British empire on the rest of the world were incredibly complex, and if you take a close look at all of them and examine them with an open mind, you'll see that the empire wasn't actually that evil monster we all grew up learning about.
I recommend you read this book. It's absolutely superb - nicely written, well documented, and, unlike many history books, very easy and pleasant to read. It will open your eyes and will make you see the British empire differently.

As for hating America, while I cannot speak for any forum member in particular, I can tell you that the overwhelming majority of the people in the free world do not hate it. Quite the contrary. We look up to it. When we express critical opinions on the American government and/or president, we don't do it because we hate America. We do it for two reasons:
First, because the American politics has a strong tendency to influence (or even to directly affect) the rest of the world. If the king of, say, Belgium, does something stupid, non-Belgians couldn't care less about it, because it wouldn't affect anything and anyone outside Belgium. When the Romanian president does something stupid, we're the only ones to suffer; nobody outside Romania will give a damn about it, and rightly so. But when the American president does something stupid, this can have serious consequences all over the world. There's an old saying: when America sneezes, the rest of the world takes aspirin.
Second, because, as I said, we look up to America. We want America to be strong and healthy. It hurts us when it isn't. When we criticize Trump, we don't do it because we hate America, but because we love it, and we hate to see the damage he's doing to it. Incidentally, I'm not necessarily anti-Trump. I'm a bit torn - I don't like him as a person, but I dislike the alternative even more. So I don't know in which camp I'd fit. If I had the right to vote in America, it would be a tough decision for me. Not that it would be something new for me as a Romanian; we've always been voting for the smallest evil for the past thirty years, and there's no sign that this will change any time soon. We have elections this fall, and I have no idea whom to vote for. I despise them all. :frown:
 
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So you have no issue with the WH blocking the CDC or are you just trying to deflect?
Guess you missed the part where I rolled my eyes at the anonymous sources...which no one should respond to.

Who is proud to be a Trump supporter alongside these idiots?
Idiots on all sides of the spectrum. You can find the same videos you posted going any direction.
 
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