Ford out GM in with FPC

[Mjc1241]

Always wondered why Ford got rid of those sills, they were much nicer and said something about the GT 350.

I actually like the sills on the 2016 more.

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[johnny1]

I actually like the sills on the 2016 more.

I agree I had a 16 and then 17 I never did like the change in 17. The 16's also had the same plaque on the strut tower brace as the door sills which was cool. The 17's as yas know both door sills and strut tower brace just say Ford Performance. I've seen where some have bought and changed the door sills on newer models back like the 16's. You wouldn't be able to change the strut tower brace one without replacing the brace.

 

[Wildcardfox]

No matter the reason ...

I just smile and laugh whenever I see the big bold letters, emboldened on the plastic LOL

"F L A T P L A N E C R A N K"

or another favorite distinctly American style marketing:

"C A R B O N F I B E R C O M P O S I T E"

LOL

usually when manufacturers used FPC engines or CF they simply just used it; leave it to the Americans to make it front and center , as if its the latest thing lol

I actually don’t take it as bragging. This was Ford’s first use of a flat plane crank and composites in a mass produced car. So I find it appropriate for them to highlight it.
If it was their ninth time or something that they do all the time in every car that it’s now commonplace, then I would see it as bragging.

 

[Lorne34]

I actually don’t take it as bragging. This was Ford’s first use of a flat plane crank and composites in a mass produced car. So I find it appropriate for them to highlight it.
If it was their ninth time or something that they do all the time in every car that it’s now commonplace, then I would see it as bragging.

The cool thing is you can modify or cover these areas if you wish.. I've seen some of the under hood plaques that really personalize the vehicle for you. After watching the various you tube reviews of the 350 over the past 5 years it's interesting how a lot of reviewer pick on the interior and the comments about "cheap plastic" That tells me they are reaching to find something negative to say.

 

[nastang87xx]

Always wondered why Ford got rid of those sills, they were much nicer and said something about the GT 350.

Did they? I know the 2016 cars had the Flat Plane Crank and displacement sill and I thought they were really tacky. Then 2017 - 2018 had the Ford Performance one. Did they get rid of them in 19 and 20?

 

[Caballus]

Did they? I know the 2016 cars had the Flat Plane Crank and displacement sill and I thought they were really tacky. Then 2017 - 2018 had the Ford Performance one. Did they get rid of them in 19 and 20?

17-20 are the same. FP.

 

[Johnnydarkgt350]

After reading this thread I’ve learned more about how gratefulness and Gratitude can enhance your experience with your GT350 , Dale Carnegie said it best about the three C”’s ( condemn criticize and complain). After driving my R to Higgins point yesterday and rolling on the throttle some and consuming that power and sound I know I’m humbled to have one

 

[martinjlm]

Since we’re talking GM FPC.....

From the May 2020 Car & Driver....

https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a3...onfirmed-2021/

The upcoming Chevy Corvette Z06 will be the first of several upcoming ultra-high-perform*ance variants of the C8 Corvette. We expect it to go on sale in early 2021 as a 2022 model, starting at about $85,000. It's a return to the stripped-down-for-action, high-revving, track-worthy Vette embodied by the 505-hp 7.0-liter V-8-powered C6 Z06 of 2006 through 2013.

This time, the Z06 will use a naturally aspirated DOHC 32-valve 5.5-liter V-8. Plus, it has a flat-plane crank, just like a Ferrari V-8. It should rev to between 8500 and 9000 rpm, spit out 600-plus horsepower, and shriek like something from Ferrari. It feeds an eight-speed dual-clutch automatic transaxle driving the rear wheels. This is no mere speculation; a detuned version of this engine is already powering the C8.R race car.

 

[jpindustrie]

See? ^^ American marketing at its finest , its still working ...

"Guess what guys - it's gonna have a crankshaft!"

 

[DCShelby]

5.5 liter flat plane crank......gonna have some severe secondary and third order vibrations to dampen out.

 

[shogun32]

5.5 liter flat plane crank......gonna have some severe secondary and third order vibrations to dampen out.

it they were smart they would have incorporated a balance shaft. What is it with car engine designers not taking cues from the motorocycle guys who have used FPC for decades and incorporated one if not 2 balance shafts? It's not like there isn't oodles of room unlike in a MC engine.

 

[nastang87xx]

5.5 liter flat plane crank......gonna have some severe secondary and third order vibrations to dampen out.

That depends on what the bore and stroke is. It's not about overall displacement, it's about how that displacement is achieved.

 

[johnny1]

it they were smart they would have incorporated a balance shaft. What is it with car engine designers not taking cues from the motorocycle guys who have used FPC for decades and incorporated one if not 2 balance shafts? It's not like there isn't oodles of room unlike in a MC engine.

Example my 2007 Canyon had a I5 (five cylinder engine) in it. And I thought how in hell can you have 5 cylinders and the engine be smooth. I had that truck 9 years and it idled perfectly smooth and had quite a bit of horse power. They were basically a straight 6 and they took a cylinder off. And what made it so smooth? Balance shafts so they do work. Theres a lot of them out there right now with high mileage that run just fine and smooth.

 

[Whitemagic1]

Speaking of unique exhaust sound, anyone heard of 180 degree headers.
The very reason I had to have a fpc GT350 when they came out. (I needed to get the entire Real Thing)
I had been utilizing just a portion on the 180 degree setup for some 30 years on my stock cars... (180 degree headers)
These headers we used on our Big Block Cross Plane 454 Chevrolet engines for years, they did add a small amount of horsepower.
Many people described the sound our headers made on the race track as a: "A nest of Mad Hornets"

A description article for the 180 degree header concept: https://www.hotrod.com/articles/180-degree-headers-help-v8s-low-midrange-torque/

My all-time favorite:
1966 LeMans-Winning Ford GT40
These 180 degree headers for the Big Block Ford 427 were a work of art !

Sure wouldn't want to be the guy to say "We need to change sparkplugs" (On the GT40)

 

[Hi-PO Stang]

Interesting the C8 will have 600 plus HP in 5.5 liter FPC engine. I am surprised to hear the C8 race car has a FPC engine.

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