Scoobs
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Once the engine shows up it only takes 1 day to pull the old one and replace it with the new one ..... if the tech knows what he is doing.
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he wants a car that he can drive soonest, and isn't deluded into thinking a 5000 units/year vehicle is in any way remotely collectible.At that point the resale and the collectibility if you care about that is gone.
Forget âcollectibilityâ. It was just a point. The other point is youâre paying a premium on a car really for the name. Letâs be honest. A Shelby is worth a little more because itâs a Shelby. It has a motor thatâs special. Hand made. Itâs labeled. Thereâs a chassis plaque in the car. Itâs semi limited. Doing an engine replacement on a car like that is not something that ford should be allowed to do. Make them lemon the car out and replace it. Period.Like I said, if you want value 5 years from now...take your cash and buy stocks while the market is down, and donât worry about a car with a factory replaced engine. Itâs a great time to buy Apple, Google and staples too...things that will be here 5 years from now...five years from now youâd be lucky to have your Shelby be worth more than you paid for it. They made them for 5 years now.
he wants a car that he can drive soonest, and isn't deluded into thinking a 5000 units/year vehicle is in any way remotely collectible.
I donât think you should agree to that with any car that new. You can get another R any where. Ok big deal it wonât be like green but you know what. It wonât be a lemon either. And that to me means everything. I donât care if the car is $5k but definitely not $70k.Like I said, if you want value 5 years from now...take your cash and buy stocks while the market is down, and donât worry about a car with a factory replaced engine. Itâs a great time to buy Apple, Google and staples too...things that will be here 5 years from now...five years from now youâd be lucky to have your Shelby be worth more than you paid for it. They made them for 5 years now.
Some parts in GT350 made in China, like some electronic modules. We still don't know what causing engine failures in many cases(why spark plugs burned of failed cylinders for example). Porsche parts are made in Germany or inside European Union. It's not a secret that it makes a big difference in QC of any products made in China. Also GT350 is a half of a price for 911. That being said, I'm not suggesting that Ford shouldn't improve on the build quality of they vehicles. IMO, Shelby GT350/R with the tag price of $65-75K need a lot of improvements in general.I was talking to a guy last week who drives a Porsche 911. He told me the reason he has a 911 is that he bought a brand new Cayman GTS and driving it home from the dealership it crapped its engine with 24 miles on the odo. He called the dealership and they immediately offered to allow him to reject the vehicle and gave him a full refund on the Cayman. They also offered him one of their 911 allocations to keep him as a customer. But that's Porsche, and that particular Porsche dealer.
This is what I did with my regular GT. I had originally ordered it and it came with paint issues and Ford bought it back. I asked them to re-make me the replacement vs. finding one on a lot and they did that. I hope they take care of all their customers that way.If it stays this way, from what I have gathered from the Cobra Jet thread on Lemon Laws and Ford buy backs, you might be able to order a new car if your exact spec is not available.
I have no idea, neither did the Service Advisor. I was surprised since the new motor was already sitting at the dealership when Ford asked the dealer to pull the pan.Interesting. What would be signs of abuse only apparent after removing the oil pan?
I've seen buybacks with factory paint issues.. if it's caught right away they often don't want to have dealerships try to "fix" factory paint defects that are significant. When I was shopping for the 350 I came across a buy back that was supposedly due to factory stripe issues.... not sure If I believed them, but that's what they said.This is what I did with my regular GT. I had originally ordered it and it came with paint issues and Ford bought it back. I asked them to re-make me the replacement vs. finding one on a lot and they did that. I hope they take care of all their customers that way.
Thanks- Iâm sure it will be fineHope is turns out well.
I was talking to a guy last week who drives a Porsche 911. He told me the reason he has a 911 is that he bought a brand new Cayman GTS and driving it home from the dealership it crapped its engine with 24 miles on the odo. He called the dealership and they immediately offered to allow him to reject the vehicle and gave him a full refund on the Cayman. They also offered him one of their 911 allocations to keep him as a customer. But that's Porsche, and that particular Porsche dealer.
Nobody is perfect, including Porsche. I have owned three GT3âs and currently have a 2018. My 2010 had several items that were not track worthy, while my 2015 had the motor issues (not mine, sold it before any problems) and I currently own a 2018 that is trouble free. Three generations to get a âperfectâ one, LOL. I also owned a 2002 M3 that had two bottom end recalls. So I guess Iâm experienced with this sort of thing.Some parts in GT350 made in China, like some electronic modules. We still don't know what causing engine failures in many cases(why spark plugs burned of failed cylinders for example). Porsche parts are made in Germany or inside European Union. It's not a secret that it makes a big difference in QC of any products made in China. Also GT350 is a half of a price for 911. That being said, I'm not suggesting that Ford shouldn't improve on the build quality of they vehicles. IMO, Shelby GT350/R with the tag price of $65-75K need a lot of improvements in general.
Iâm still waiting for some definitive answer on how my case would be handled if I push for replacement. Good to know your experience.This is what I did with my regular GT. I had originally ordered it and it came with paint issues and Ford bought it back. I asked them to re-make me the replacement vs. finding one on a lot and they did that. I hope they take care of all their customers that way.
AgreedLet's see how this shakes out. If they replace the car, I don't think anyone is going to reimburse for the PPF/Ceramic.
If they do not offer a buy back and the engine replacement is solid with no further issues, then I would keep the car and move on.
The Title will still be clean, but the engine will be a mismatch.
If the car continues to have issues after engine replacement his leverage for buy back increases.
Interesting.I've seen buybacks with factory paint issues.. if it's caught right away they often don't want to have dealerships try to "fix" factory paint defects that are significant. When I was shopping for the 350 I came across a buy back that was supposedly due to factory stripe issues.... not sure If I believed them, but that's what they said.