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It will be an easy win against a bunch of socialist and communist democrats.

Trump will kill old Biden in all debates.

I look forward to another 4 years of great economic successes for everyone.
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If the Democratic nominee is anyone other than Biden I'd say Trump has no shot. Honestly, the Republicans would have a better shot if they had anyone other than Trump. Kasich or Rubio would have been far better presidents.

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"As a percentage of eligible voters, Clinton received 28.43% (65,845,063) of all votes compared to Trump’s 27.20% (62,980,160) and Did Not Vote’s 44.37% (102,731,399)."

How much longer are people going to keep this red-baiting shit up?

"The conservative National Review devoted an entire issue to the theme, “Against Socialism,” including articles entitled “Socialism Is Not Democratic,” “Socialism as Epic Tragedy,” “Why Socialism Causes Shortages,” “Socialized Medicine Is Bad For Your Health,” “Socialism Is Bad for the Environment,” and “Socialism Destroys the Human Character.”

“We thought our Gained Cause was having vanquished domestic socialism forevermore after the collapse of Soviet Communism in 1989,” warned National Review editor Rich Lowry, but now it appears that socialism is making a comeback, with Democrats calling for “sweeping aggrandizements of government power on a scale not seen in this country since the New Deal, if ever.”

"For Trump and his allies, branding Democrats as socialists isn’t really about defending capitalism or rooting out subversives but simply about getting reelected. It’s a way to change the subject to deflect attention away from his own incompetence, corruption, and legal troubles—and perhaps a looming impeachment battle. For the president, the socialist label is also a form of nasty name-calling, a way to demean his opponents, like “Crooked Hillary,” “Little Marco,” “Lyin’ Ted,” “Pocahontas” and, most recently, “Sleepy Creepy Joe.” And it is red-meat red-baiting for his hard-core base. Last year, a Gallup poll found that among Republicans, 71 percent had a positive view of capitalism and only 16 percent viewed socialism favorably."

"Red-baiting has been a consistent presence in American politics since the 1917 Russian Revolution. During the first Red Scare, after World War I, Woodrow Wilson’s attorney general, A. Mitchell Palmer, rounded up, jailed, or deported thousands of suspected radicals, stoking fear that they were trying to import Communism (or anarchism) to the United States. During the Depression, right-wing groups, business leaders, Republicans, and much of the press branded President Franklin D. Roosevelt and his New Deal as ultra-radical. “The New Deal is now undisguised state socialism,” pronounced Senator Simeon Fess of Ohio in 1934. A year later his GOP colleague, Representative Robert Rich of Pennsylvania, claimed that “Roosevelt is a socialist, not a Democrat.”

"Beginning in the late 1940s, another wave of hysteria swept the country during the Cold War, when politicians like Martin Dies, Joseph McCarthy, and Richard Nixon engineered witch hunts to identify and blacklist progressives and radicals in government, schools and universities, Hollywood, labor unions, and the media, alleging that Communists were infiltrating key institutions in order to undermine the American way of life. (McCarthy’s top witch-hunting assistant was Roy Cohn, who would later become Trump’s attorney and political mentor.) Anyone who questioned the nuclear-arms race supported racial integration, or called for higher taxes on the rich could be branded an anti-American Communist. Not even Martin Luther King Jr. was immune. In the 1960s, segregationists and right-wing groups erected billboards around the country vilifying him as a Communist. The Cold War red-baiters didn’t make distinctions between socialism and communism, even though American socialists opposed the totalitarian governments of the Soviet Union, China, and their satellites."

Every fucking election cycles its this same old song and dance. 8 years of 'socialist' Obama, give me a fucking break. I have 0 idea how people eat this shit up. You'd think after hearing it every few years you'd realize its nothing more than pandering for votes from the ignorant.

Keep your ignorance to yourself, we already have enough sheep in this country.
 
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..Keep your ignorance to yourself, we already have enough sheep in this country.
I would never attack you for your opinion. Who do you think will win in 2020?

I promise the stock market will crash if the crazy dudes may win. I'll do well as I will load up on massive puts against the stock market.

I will make money either way. The cost of of a put in November is cheap today.

So, your pick is ?
 

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I would never attack you for your opinion. Who do you think will win in 2020?

I promise the stock market will crash if the crazy dudes may win. I'll do well as I will load up on massive puts against the stock market.

I will make money either way. The cost of of a put in November is cheap today.

So, your pick is ?
I have no idea it is far to early to tell.

The stock market has boom and bust cycles, there's a 50/50 chance you're correct. However, like every time before, as you can clearly see, we've rebounded higher. Might I add, many of those rebounds were under Democrats.

I'm already hedged as I never like losing money best to play the long game than to take on too much risk. I would advise you do the same rather than trying to time the market.
 

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If the Democratic nominee is anyone other than Biden I'd say Trump has no shot. Honestly, the Republicans would have a better shot if they had anyone other than Trump. Kasich or Rubio would have been far better presidents.
So you are saying if Biden gets the nominee Trump will most likely win but Trump would lose if any other primary candidate were to go up against them? If I'm correct in that perception I would say it surprises me at least based on how various candidates poll against Trump. Anything I've seen has Biden leading him more than any other Dem. That said I do see lots of issues with Joe the main one being he keeps looking really old in his appearance and more importantly his demeanor. I like several of the other candidates Bernie & Butigieg among them perhaps a little more but I believe Bernie is too Progressive in ideology for what many Americans would be comfortable with.

With regards to the OP's point I don't think Trump will win but I thought that the last time LOL & I was wrong so who knows? With respect to crashing markets I don't think anyone would have called George W. a crazy leftie and it happened on his watch. The financial meltdown was complicated but certainly bad debt was the main part of it. Oddly enough we weathered it fairly well in retrospect mainly because our banks are heavily regulated not because they were smart. Markets rise and fall but the long game always seems to yield benefit regardless of who comes and goes.
 

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I think if the Dems continue on their current path, Trump gets a pretty easy win.

Especially if, and I think will happen, Hilary jumps in at the last possible minute thinking she will get a free nomination, not having to have gotten her hands dirty during the debates and primaries. Which I think she would be handed the nomination at this point. And then she would lose horribly, having just split a pissed off party, and unifying her opponents party.

If it is Biden or Bernie, I see a pretty clear win. I really see the Dems most likely chance of winning would have to be Butigieg or Bloomberg, but they would have to clean their act up significantly to do that. Of course, if the market tanks between now and November, which is possible but from what I am seeing not probable, it would make their lives a lot easier. That could potentially be spun to hurt the Dems as well with the fact that they have completely stalled government action until after the election.

So this impeachment will have a significant influence, and it could swing things either way, depends on what all comes to light and how it is handled. I do have to say, as of right now it does not look like the Dems are handling it as well as they could have been handling it. Even if it is not a witch hunt, they are doing everything to keep it looking like it is, they are frothing at the mouth, which just makes them look rabid and unappealing.
 

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I will say this. If GOP supporters take the election of 2020 for granted and don't show up, it will be a loss for them. Plain and simple.
 

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So you are saying if Biden gets the nominee Trump will most likely win but Trump would lose if any other primary candidate were to go up against them? If I'm correct in that perception I would say it surprises me at least based on how various candidates poll against Trump. Anything I've seen has Biden leading him more than any other Dem. That said I do see lots of issues with Joe the main one being he keeps looking really old in his appearance and more importantly his demeanor. I like several of the other candidates Bernie & Butigieg among them perhaps a little more but I believe Bernie is too Progressive in ideology for what many Americans would be comfortable with.

With regards to the OP's point I don't think Trump will win but I thought that the last time LOL & I was wrong so who knows? With respect to crashing markets I don't think anyone would have called George W. a crazy leftie and it happened on his watch. The financial meltdown was complicated but certainly bad debt was the main part of it. Oddly enough we weathered it fairly well in retrospect mainly because our banks are heavily regulated not because they were smart. Markets rise and fall but the long game always seems to yield benefit regardless of who comes and goes.
Yeah, Biden has a lot of baggage that most other dems running do not.

I don't really believe polls as we've seen numerous times before they're either biased or out right lying, most recently Bernie vs Hilary and Trump vs the whole Republican field prior to weeding out the field.

I am all for Bernie as to me he has by far the most integrity and moral compass of any politician.

"Bernie isn’t a typical politician. He has been saying the same shit for years. He actually cares about the people. Just watch this video of how effective Bernie was as mayor in Burlington. He got more done than any other politician is Vermont history. Bernie today is the most popular Senator in America and has an approval rating of 75% in Vermont, the highest in the country. Again in Vermont, a rural, gun loving state which once was a Republican stronghold for decades until Bernie came along.



Bernie does not wait for change to happen, he makes it happen. When Bernie was in high school, he ran for student body president. He ended up losing, but he fought the school board to keep his main promise which was to raise money for kids orphaned by the Vietnam war. When Bernie was 22, Bernie was arrested because he chained himselfto a black women in Chicago to fight segregation. And btw, this was in 1963 when to protest segregation was a crime. It takes guts to do that. A few years ago, when IBM was going to cut the pension of their workers. Bernie ended up buying shares of IBM from his own money to speak at their shareholders meeting, and got enough media attention and scrutiny to stop IBM from cutting their workers pension. Just in the last year, Bernie fought on the picket lines along with Amazon and Disney workers, he led from the front and got them a $15 minimum wage. On the campaign trail a month or so ago, Bernie met a veteran, suffering from Huntington’s who was deep in debt and suicidal. Bernie, the very next day, spoke to Congressmen in his state and got him the help he needed. And got rid of his debt. That is a guy who gives a shit about you. Bernie has been fighting for the working class people all his life, even when nobody was listening. You may disagree with his policies but only Bernie can bring systematic change needed to make America work for the people. Bernie isn’t all talk like the other candidates, he has an actual record fighting for working class people. Bernie is an honest and a good man, which is extremely rare in politics."

His podcast with Joe Rogan awe inspiring, if anyone here hasn't watched it do yourself a favor and go do that.
 

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Yeah, Biden has a lot of baggage that most other dems running do not.

I don't really believe polls as we've seen numerous times before they're either biased or out right lying, most recently Bernie vs Hilary and Trump vs the whole Republican field prior to weeding out the field.

I am all for Bernie as to me he has by far the most integrity and moral compass of any politician.

"Bernie isn’t a typical politician. He has been saying the same shit for years. He actually cares about the people. Just watch this video of how effective Bernie was as mayor in Burlington. He got more done than any other politician is Vermont history. Bernie today is the most popular Senator in America and has an approval rating of 75% in Vermont, the highest in the country. Again in Vermont, a rural, gun loving state which once was a Republican stronghold for decades until Bernie came along.

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Okay thanks for clarifying I just wasn't sure I was reading what you said correctly as I was perhaps assuming something a little too much. I totally agree on Bernie's integrity & moral compass and I like him a lot but he got a raw deal in the whole Superpac fiasco the last time. I just think he likely scares a good number of folks with his ideas. He's been up here a couple times looking at we are doing for health care insulin drugs key among them.
 

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Okay thanks for clarifying I just wasn't sure I was reading what you said correctly as I was perhaps assuming something a little too much. I totally agree on Bernie's integrity & moral compass and I like him a lot but he got a raw deal in the whole Superpac fiasco the last time. I just think he likely scares a good number of folks with his ideas. He's been up here a couple times looking at we are doing for health care insulin drugs key among them.
Yeah, I couldn't imagine why the main stream media who are endorsed and owned by large multi national conglomerates would want to scaremonger people into thinking Bernie is a radical. Just look up who's bank rolling politicians, news outlets, etc. those 'donors' don't give a fuck about what any of us want aside from getting our vote and none of them should be heralded as heroes for the common man. Actions speak louder than words and no one has a better looking track record than Bernie.

Edit: Do I agree with everything? No, but if I'm going to vote on someone its going to be on the person who has integrity, morality; and backed his words with action.

Its not what you do when the eyes of the world are watching, its what you do when you think no one is looking.
 

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Yeah, I couldn't imagine why the main stream media who are endorsed and owned by large multi national conglomerates would want to scaremonger people into thinking Bernie is a radical. Just look up who's bank rolling politicians, news outlets, etc. those 'donors' don't give a fuck about what any of us want aside from getting our vote and none of them should be heralded as heroes for the common man. Actions speak louder than words and no one has a better looking track record than Bernie.

Edit: Do I agree with everything? No, but if I'm going to vote on someone its going to be on the person who has integrity, morality; and backed his words with action.

Its not what you do when the eyes of the world are watching, its what you do when you think no one is looking.
For the record he wouldn't scare me in the least. I've said many times its too bad he couldn't run for office in Canada but alas no......
 
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