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Thanks to everybody for sharing all this information and all the work that has been done. :clap:

I would love to have this on my '17 EU GTPP. I already changed to the 18+ 12" digital cluster, so this should be a fairly easy task, aside from getting the rights parts the first time (not always the case).

Can U tell me which gauge cluster to get, as I see several different on ford.parts.com
What are the actual differences on these three? I'm looking for the one thats in the US GT cars.

Furthermore I guess our export cars have a different coloured alu dash, so I probably need all 3 or 4 new pieces. I'm not into wrap, but that might be a last solution.

Any help is greatly appreciated :like:

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Thanks to everybody for sharing all this information and all the work that has been done. :clap:

I would love to have this on my '17 EU GTPP. I already changed to the 18+ 12" digital cluster, so this should be a fairly easy task, aside from getting the rights parts the first time (not always the case).

Can U tell me which gauge cluster to get, as I see several different on ford.parts.com
Don't know the part numbers but if you don't have MyColor or don't care about it for these center gauges, I would order the GT350 version because it substitutes oil temp (calculated) for the vacuum gauge. Otherwise get the EB version because it substitutes a vacuum/boost gauge for the vacuum only gauge in the GT version. You will still have vacuum (does anyone use that?), but if you or future owner adds a turbo or supercharger the car will already have the boost gauge. All are plug and play on US market 2017 GTs.
 

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I have a 15 gt premium non performance pack model. Currently, my Lund Nguage won't read oil pressure because I have the switch type oil pressure sensor. Does anyone know what I will need to do to make the Nguage display the oil pressure? I am assuming it will require wiring in the performance pack oil pressure sensor?if so, what all wires need tapped?
 

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Hi! can anyone give me info about the wire harness needed to install the PP gauges! thanks :)
 

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Hi! can anyone give me info about the wire harness needed to install the PP gauges! thanks :)
the harness is already there behind your radio. just have to plug it into the gauges once you get them
 

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the harness is already there behind your radio. just have to plug it into the gauges once you get them
Thanks for the info! I couldn't find any performance dash on ebay so i guess i'll just have to wait.
 

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Thanks for the info! I couldn't find any performance dash on ebay so i guess i'll just have to wait.
Yeah they pop up from time to time ..also look at your local offer up they pop up on there as well i.I come across one here in California I'll let you know.
 

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So my tuner has been trying to get this to work so far he tried changing two settings (pictures) does anyone know which one should be a 0 or 1, and which ones 2. thank you!
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So my tuner has been trying to get this to work so far he tried changing two settings (pictures) does anyone know which one should be a 0 or 1, and which ones 2. thank you!
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I would say "2-with PP" but don't know for sure.
 

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I wanted everyone to know that Ricardo (rii_505) is a trusted member of this forum. I bought a PP dash and OEM gauge kit from him and he not only sent exactly what he advertised but also shipped it very promptly. He provided the tracking numbers and also gave me his personal cell so we could communicate more quickly and effectively. Thank you Ricardo!
 

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Well guys I did it....

Swapping PP or OEM aux gauges into a standard non performance package mustang is indeed possible. Panels with gauges can be found on ebay for usually $250-350. You will also need a gauge wiring connector.

Once you have gathered all parts you can start the install process. The wiring consists of 4 wires, all of which can be tapped into from the OEM APIM (sync) connector. 2 are power, positive can be tapped into from pin 1 on the APIM connector while ground can be pin 37( for premium owners) or pin 38 (for base model owners). The remaining 2 leads are for HS1 CAN. These can be tapped into from pin 53 for high (pin 53 APIM to pin 2 on connector) and pin 54 for low (pin 54 APIM to pin 3 on connector)

Once the wiring is completed we now need to make room for the gauges in the center of the dash. This will require the use of a Dremel to remove the center panel between the two outermost ac vents. You will also need to trim the center AC vent back about 1 inch to make room for the connector. A picture below has more detailed information. Again do not worry, this will not prevent you from still using standard 3 vent dash panels.

NOTE: Oil pressure gauge will not work on V6 base models. PCM programming and a new sending unit would be required. Unfortunately the PCM cannot be easily programmed and no data exits on what would have to be modified in the programming. GT owners and EB owners can activate the oil pressure gauge by simply getting a tune update to include the aux gauges.


Gauge connector part number: 6U2Z-14S411-JB

For those looking for the GT350 Oil Temp gauge, part numbers below.

GT350 Gauges part number: FR3V-10B944-AC

GT350 Dash trim panel part number: FR3V-63044A92-AJSMRJ
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Well guys I did it....

Swapping PP or OEM aux gauges into a standard non performance package mustang is indeed possible. Panels with gauges can be found on ebay for usually $250-350. You will also need a gauge wiring connector.

Once you have gathered all parts you can start the install process. The wiring consists of 4 wires, all of which can be tapped into from the OEM APIM (sync) connector. 2 are power, positive can be tapped into from pin 1 on the APIM connector while ground can be pin 37( for premium owners) or pin 38 (for base model owners). The remaining 2 leads are for HS1 CAN. These can be tapped into from pin 53 for high (pin 53 APIM to pin 2 on connector) and pin 54 for low (pin 54 APIM to pin 3 on connector)

Once the wiring is completed we now need to make room for the gauges in the center of the dash. This will require the use of a Dremel to remove the center panel between the two outermost ac vents. You will also need to trim the center AC vent back about 1 inch to make room for the connector. A picture below has more detailed information. Again do not worry, this will not prevent you from still using standard 3 vent dash panels.

NOTE: Oil pressure gauge will not work on V6 base models. PCM programming and a new sending unit would be required. Unfortunately the PCM cannot be easily programmed and no data exits on what would have to be modified in the programming. GT owners and EB owners can activate the oil pressure gauge by simply getting a tune update to include the aux gauges.


Gauge connector part number: 6U2Z-14S411-JB

For those looking for the GT350 Oil Temp gauge, part numbers below.

GT350 Gauges part number: FR3V-10B944-AC

GT350 Dash trim panel part number: FR3V-63044A92-AJSMRJ
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Hello, I would like to install the performance pack guages in my 2015 GT Premium. But want to use the vac/boost gauge and oil pressure combo. I’ve read your post and am wondering if the pins I have to tap into are the same for a GT as well.
I think that it was done on an Eco Boost on the install they did in the forum.
 

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Hello, I would like to install the performance pack guages in my 2015 GT Premium. But want to use the vac/boost gauge and oil pressure combo. I’ve read your post and am wondering if the pins I have to tap into are the same for a GT as well.
I think that it was done on an Eco Boost on the install they did in the forum.
Yes the pins are the same for a 2015 GT premium but be aware that the oil pressure gauge won't work unless a tuner changes the pressure gauge type in the PCM to 'transducer' instead of just on-off.
 

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Well guys I did it....

Swapping PP or OEM aux gauges into a standard non performance package mustang is indeed possible. Panels with gauges can be found on ebay for usually $250-350. You will also need a gauge wiring connector.

Once you have gathered all parts you can start the install process. The wiring consists of 4 wires, all of which can be tapped into from the OEM APIM (sync) connector. 2 are power, positive can be tapped into from pin 1 on the APIM connector while ground can be pin 37( for premium owners) or pin 38 (for base model owners). The remaining 2 leads are for HS1 CAN. These can be tapped into from pin 53 for high (pin 53 APIM to pin 2 on connector) and pin 54 for low (pin 54 APIM to pin 3 on connector)

Once the wiring is completed we now need to make room for the gauges in the center of the dash. This will require the use of a Dremel to remove the center panel between the two outermost ac vents. You will also need to trim the center AC vent back about 1 inch to make room for the connector. A picture below has more detailed information. Again do not worry, this will not prevent you from still using standard 3 vent dash panels.

NOTE: Oil pressure gauge will not work on V6 base models. PCM programming and a new sending unit would be required. Unfortunately the PCM cannot be easily programmed and no data exits on what would have to be modified in the programming. GT owners and EB owners can activate the oil pressure gauge by simply getting a tune update to include the aux gauges.


Gauge connector part number: 6U2Z-14S411-JB

For those looking for the GT350 Oil Temp gauge, part numbers below.

GT350 Gauges part number: FR3V-10B944-AC

GT350 Dash trim panel part number: FR3V-63044A92-AJSMRJ
connector.jpg
gauges.jpg
SNAG-0625-1.jpg
IMG_20151227_152915.jpg
IMG_20151227_152911.jpg
Yes the pins are the same for a 2015 GT premium but be aware that the oil pressure gauge won't work unless a tuner changes the pressure gauge type in the PCM to 'transducer' instead of just on-off.
Yes the pins are the same for a 2015 GT premium but be aware that the oil pressure gauge won't work unless a tuner changes the pressure gauge type in the PCM to 'transducer' instead of just on-off.
Thank you for getting back to me so fast. Is it possible for me to do it in forscan? I have the obd2 connector because I upgraded my sync2 to sync 3 myself. Because others wanted over 1200$. All I did was buy a sync3 screen with navigation and the other parts. Then found an as build on ford and changed some codes. Don’t remember all the steps but it’s still working without a problem and saved a good amount of money. Also was very easy.
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