3star2nr
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So I'm looking for S550 dyno videos on YouTube, because... I'm obsessed apparently lol. And i stumbled across several videos of "new owners" bitching and complaining about common non issues. The most recent one i saw is a guy bitching about the MT82 on his 2020...
Here's the reality. Yes the MT82 isn't a ZF trans from, a E36 M3... Yes it's notch, noisy and has issues. But from Ford's perspective its a tranny capable of holding 700 whp reliably way more than the designed hp, The car comes with a powertrain warranty that you can extend to 75000 miles... Well beyond the expected ownership life of the car. And chances are good that if you don't track the car or beat on it, the trans will easily last 100s of thousands of miles.
Plus the fact is manuals accounted for 1% of new car sales, so the fact that they even offer these transmissions as an option is in many ways Ford making a poor business decision to appease a very small statistically irrelevant group of buyers...
Do i wish ford put a tremec tr6060 variant in these cars ... Hell yes. But the Mt82 is what we got, so why bitch about it... Especially when the issues are well documented with the mods you should do to improve it.
But theres a broader point here thats bigger than the transmission. When you buy a car especially a high performance sports car you go into it knowing that you'll one day have to pick up a wrench and do some mods or repairs... This has been true of every sports car since the dawn of time... It's even worse when you get an exotic. When people make videos bitching trolling for clicks... They're actually doing more harm than they think they are...
I dont think people who buy these cars fundamentally grasp that concept...and instead are disappointed when they realize they are in over their heads. Or bought a 460hp racecar expecting it to be like a 90hp Camry from the 90s...
Its just a matter of time before ford decides "based on numerous owner complaints" and to protect the brand to discontinue offering manuals, and eventually to discontinue the mustang as we currently know it... They will still use the "brand name" but the mustang will be a CVT automatic, with a electric motor, and 4 doors. Thats marketed as "sporty and economical"
Is that the future we really want?
Every car from a ford to a Porsche has issues. You buy the car because the overall ownership experience is worth the tradeoff and added labor or costs associated with it...
If you want reliable you buy a Corolla... If you want speed, rip it, break it, and pick up a wrench and fix it.
Here's the reality. Yes the MT82 isn't a ZF trans from, a E36 M3... Yes it's notch, noisy and has issues. But from Ford's perspective its a tranny capable of holding 700 whp reliably way more than the designed hp, The car comes with a powertrain warranty that you can extend to 75000 miles... Well beyond the expected ownership life of the car. And chances are good that if you don't track the car or beat on it, the trans will easily last 100s of thousands of miles.
Plus the fact is manuals accounted for 1% of new car sales, so the fact that they even offer these transmissions as an option is in many ways Ford making a poor business decision to appease a very small statistically irrelevant group of buyers...
Do i wish ford put a tremec tr6060 variant in these cars ... Hell yes. But the Mt82 is what we got, so why bitch about it... Especially when the issues are well documented with the mods you should do to improve it.
But theres a broader point here thats bigger than the transmission. When you buy a car especially a high performance sports car you go into it knowing that you'll one day have to pick up a wrench and do some mods or repairs... This has been true of every sports car since the dawn of time... It's even worse when you get an exotic. When people make videos bitching trolling for clicks... They're actually doing more harm than they think they are...
I dont think people who buy these cars fundamentally grasp that concept...and instead are disappointed when they realize they are in over their heads. Or bought a 460hp racecar expecting it to be like a 90hp Camry from the 90s...
Its just a matter of time before ford decides "based on numerous owner complaints" and to protect the brand to discontinue offering manuals, and eventually to discontinue the mustang as we currently know it... They will still use the "brand name" but the mustang will be a CVT automatic, with a electric motor, and 4 doors. Thats marketed as "sporty and economical"
Is that the future we really want?
Every car from a ford to a Porsche has issues. You buy the car because the overall ownership experience is worth the tradeoff and added labor or costs associated with it...
If you want reliable you buy a Corolla... If you want speed, rip it, break it, and pick up a wrench and fix it.
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