Gotcha. I took "base" to mean "stock". Guess you mean "basic" moreso but I hear ya. That should work considering there's no change in tunes between '14-'17 GT & F150 manifolds, so the same should apply to '18+.
finally got around to going to the drag strip and i believe it was holding me back on the top end. i also added the mishimoto intake tube and honestly that helped pick up some tq that i felt the IM also helped so with the intake tube i switched back to the stock mani and it feels like it did with f150 mani and no mishi tube. so now i feel like i have the low end of the f150 mani but the top end of the stock mani. i hope that made sense
the f150 mani def "feels" better but i def think its slower. i would def have to recommend people looking into the mishi tube as well. not much more expensive if at all than the f150 mani but gives similar feel to the car down low plus way easier to swap.
Can confirm: mishi tube with stock manifold is about as good as it gets for a 6500 rpm and below setup. I really enjoyed it before doing the 18 GT manifold.
Unless you peeps have dyno #'s in hand, your "feels better" comments are more than likely placebo effect, or dare I say wishful thinking. I'm not trying to piss any of you off or suggest in any way you are lying..., BUT your results might be what you want it to "feel" like, and those results are not objective in any way.
No I don't feel like talking to a wall tonight. Area under the curve matters. Dyno peaks where you don't drive the car WOT or are traction limited is not useful objective information. This is like the joke "part throttle racing" ecoboost guy from a year or two ago.
"Under the curve" only matters when you can back-up your claims with hard data. Without before/after dyno charts, and their respective "curve(s)", your statements are self-flagellating nonsense.
Not a surprise to me. Less top end ultimately makes you slower. The F150 manifold guys may THINK their car is faster because it has more low end torque, but it is not faster.
Actually, that is exactly what it's like - talking to a wall. And there is plenty of hard data out there. Just because you don't prove it to me isn't a valid response unless you actually have proof on your end.
