Chevy copies Ford

[Demonic]

Technically Ford copied Chevy.
1989 Corvette ZR1 featured a DOHC V8.

Which interestingly had the top end designed by Lotus (owned by GM at the time), and then the engine built by MerCruiser.

Regardless, I think the OP's title was only supposed to be tongue in cheek and not meant to start an existential chicken or egg debate. Either way, if it turns out they're running a UDDU crank vs the Voodoo's UDUD, then it'll be easier to argue they went Ferrari style vs Ford style.

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[Genxer]

My thinking is that since Corvette went with a mid engine platform like many exotics, they simply followed through like them and decided to dip their toe in the water with the FPC.

 

[geepaw]

If the c8 ends up with a FPC..it will be on my wish list. Funny how touchy people take things so seriously on the forums...especially ford vs. GM . I’m thankful we are in era of the best handling and engineered American sports and muscle cars. The more competition the better...I am not so sure the GT500 happens if the ZLI -1LE didn’t push the issue.

 

[Wyldfyer]

#Random. MAN I love this forum!!!

I recently ordered the new C8 and have been checking out the corvette forum (or at least trying). Total disaster!!! If someone posted this same link on their forum, it would be civil war over who's corvette is better. Here? Folks are posting about how cool the car is, how it compares to our engines, etc. No drama.

 

[JR369]

If the c8 ends up with a FPC..it will be on my wish list. Funny how touchy people take things so seriously on the forums...especially ford vs. GM . I’m thankful we are in era of the best handling and engineered American sports and muscle cars. The more competition the better...I am not so sure the GT500 happens if the ZLI -1LE didn’t push the issue.

If GM drops a 5.5 FPC naturally aspirated motor making 550HP+ into a C8 platform, like the Grand Sport or the Z06, you can count me in for a 2021 or 22 model.

 

[nastang87xx]

If GM drops a 5.5 FPC naturally aspirated motor making 550HP+ into a C8 platform, like the Grand Sport or the Z06, you can count me in for a 2021 or 22 model.

That is exactly what I'm hoping for.

 

[SVTSNAKE355]

Technically Ford copied Chevy.
1989 Corvette ZR1 featured a DOHC V8.
The DOHC version of the Ford modular V8 was not introduced till 1993 in a Lincoln, first use in a Ford (Mustang Cobra) was 1996.

Lotus made that engine for Garbage Motors

 

[oldbmwfan]

#Random. MAN I love this forum!!!

I recently ordered the new C8 and have been checking out the corvette forum (or at least trying). Total disaster!!! If someone posted this same link on their forum, it would be civil war over who's corvette is better. Here? Folks are posting about how cool the car is, how it compares to our engines, etc. No drama.

Agreed. It sort of supports the stereotype of 'Vette buyers being insecure and image-driven. I'd (meanly) argue that's why the vast majority of 'Vettes are sold with automatic transmissions, also. It's a car that attracts image buyers more than drivers and enthusiasts, even if they are fantastic driving cars recently. The C8 will get a big share of that too, but it is a compelling package and there's no reason to say it isn't or act like its advantages aren't real.

 

[saleen367]

Technically Ford copied Chevy.
1989 Corvette ZR1 featured a DOHC V8.
The DOHC version of the Ford modular V8 was not introduced till 1993 in a Lincoln, first use in a Ford (Mustang Cobra) was 1996.

Technically, Chevrolet copied Ford .... you need to go back to the 64 Indy DOHC that Ford developed for the Indy 500.

 

[nastang87xx]

Technically anyone in Wisconsin copied me. I had a GT350 first!!!! (actually I didn't)


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[nastang87xx]

Show me a true ICE revolution like that camless engine design that Koenigsegg has been toying with and works and works well? Then I'll give a damn. I don't care if every engine becomes Tony Hawk 900 degree crank or 482945793292 overhead cam. There's only so many engine configurations to choose from. They're going to eventually be used by everyone.

 

[Hack]

Show me a true ICE revolution like that camless engine design that Koenigsegg has been toying with and works and works well? Then I'll give a damn. I don't care if every engine becomes Tony Hawk 900 degree crank or 482945793292 overhead cam. There's only so many engine configurations to choose from. They're going to eventually be used by everyone.

I agree with the sentiment that we are getting in the weeds and other engine technologies are more revolutionary and new.

FPC is somewhat of a marketing thing and not a huge innovation/change to the ICE.


But I still think Chevy copied Ford on the FPC V8.

 

[nastang87xx]

But I still think Chevy copied Ford on the FPC V8.

Actually I think both were futzing with V8 FPC's in the 60's if I understand correctly. For racing applications. Think it's kind of a tossup.

 

[Hack]

Actually I think both were futzing with V8 FPC's in the 60's if I understand correctly. For racing applications. Think it's kind of a tossup.

To borrow a phrase (kind of) from someone I respect: I don't care about the 60s. I don't care that Ford actually built overhead cam V8s in the 60s that were outlawed by NASCAR - although I think it's somewhat relevant.

I just care that right now - Ford just built a highly acclaimed FPC engine. And 5-7 years later, Chevy is probably going to build one. Basically within the soonest possible window of developing an engine they are making one. Kind of like the Mustang - Camaro sequence of events.

 

[okfoz]

I believe the earliest V8's had a flat plane configuration, essentially taking 2 4 cyl engines and making a V8. It is not like it is new technology...

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