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What is it called when someone attacks you because you are able to afford more expensive things?

I see that as equally uncalled for, and yet its rampant here, even encouraged.

So yes, if its snobby to make fun of the poors badmouthing those in better buying positions, so be it :)
I have to agree with V00D00 somewhat here. I recently purchased (Forced to because of I totaled Big Red) a 2018 Tacoma PRO that was in the $50k range. Small ADM like the GT350, and I was completely made fun of by the "poors" who bought the cheapest level of Tacoma as I was stupid for paying so much money for the highest trim level. I for one make a lot of money and can afford the higher level and my intelligence has nothing to do with buying the higher level. So if I want to wipe my ass with more expensive toilet paper instead of using sandpaper like the "poors", then I'll be damn if I ain't gonna do what I wanna do.
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ZL1 was always NA. Until it wasn’t. Personally I doubt there will be a 6th gen Z/28 because I think GM has moved on from 6th gen to working on 7th, but it wouldn’t be that hard to do. If, for some reason, 7th gen is closer to 6th gen in terms of chassis and suspension, then there might be a lot of temptation to drop the LT5 in the Alpha architecture and call it Z/28. LT5 will be “homeless” after July 18th. Since LT4 packages in Alpha, it’s not much more work from a packaging standpoint to drop LT5 in there.
https://www.foxnews.com/auto/gm-is-discontinuing-the-chevrolet-camaro-report-says
Looks like no seventh gen camaro or Z28 :crying:
 

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While I’ve never been a fan of their current offerings, I hope Chevy and FCA continue to invest in the Camaro and Challenger. It has created this arms race of development that brought us the GT350 and 500.
 

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Just copy - pasting what I said about this in another thread.....

What I think is actually going on here is very similar to Ford announcing that Mustang would continue on S550 for a couple more years rather than going to an S650. And word in the industry is that there will likely never be an “S650”. But rather Ford is re-scheming how to continue Mustang in a CAFE world. GM is continuing Camaro on Alpha for a couple years rather than move it to Alpha2 while they figure out what it should / will / will not be beyond 2023. Similar paths. The difference is, Ford took control of its message and said “here’s what we’re doing”. GM continues to play the “not at liberty to discuss future products” card.

IMHO the biggest threat to BOTH cars is the way CAFE treats vehicle footprint. Vehicles with smaller footprints have to meet higher fuel economy targets than vehicles with larger footprints. At the risk of over-simplifying the concept, footprint is pretty much wheelbase X track. Not really, but close enough for understanding. Mustang and Camaro are short wheelbase cars with powerful engines. They will have higher CAFE targets to hit than Edge or Acadia. The only way they will meet CAFE targets will be through some degree of electrification. That or the companies just have to decide to suck up the deficit on other more efficient models. Car and truck CAFE fleets are managed separately. Guess which two companies just drastically reduced their car fleets? Ford pushing for an electric Mach E makes sense, but from what I can tell, it will be regulated in the Truck CAFE Fleet, so Mustang is still pretty much alone in the Car CAFE Fleet.
 

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According to Tremecs website, the DCT can handle up to 664 lb.-ft of torque, so they're not leaving much room for tuners.

http://www.tremec.com/menu.php?m=155


This is the first pic i've seen of it.
TR-9070 DCT.jpg
 

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664 is a large and healthy number. With a DCT you may not need that large of number. I guess we are going to have to find out, but I am thinking 640 (after tune) will be a healthy number that gets the car moving.
 

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After looking at the specs for the Ford A10, it has max rating of 800 nm. Ford needed something that would take more HP/TQ so they developed something better.

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I believe there is a 10R90, maybe not a Ford Variant.
 

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I believe there is a 10R90, maybe not a Ford Variant.
Correct, the GM 10R90 is for the ZL1 and can handle 650HP/TQ. The Ford variant cannot handle that much.
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