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I would suggest that the 2008/2009 GT500KR's (1723 cars) were the most over priced Mustang of all time with an MSRP of $80,000 and that was echoed by many of my car buddies along with most of the automotive press at the time.
Back in 2008 and 2009 I had a couple of GT500 coupes and if I recall the MSRP for these cars was ~$44,000 which included the gas guzzler tax of $1300.
It was hard to imagine a ~$35,000 premium for an additional 40 HP gain, a short throw shifter, ungraded wheels and a few suspension mods.
History has shown that the 2008/2009 GT500KR's were grossly over priced and that many Mustang enthusiasts unfortunately took a terrible financial loss when purchasing these cars.
With that being the case I would think that Ford will think long and hard about endorsing another GT500KR launch with SA.
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I agree with this. Everything Shelby American does is over priced there playing on the mystic of the name to get people to buy.
Rjames18
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I'm far from the person that couldn't afford it.
Most people that can afford this aren't complaining about the power.
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Most of the guys that have the high end boosted GTs. Have invested GT500 money. Different strokes.
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Fair enough. I just don't see how people can complain about the horsepower. Demon claims 8xx or whatever and can't get them to run 9's stock except for the one pass they have.
Ford claims mid 10's and im sure with 760 crank and launch control with the DCT it's a very respectable number.
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I'm buying one and I'm beyond happy with the numbers. I don't care about the Redeye or Demon. Not to mention that the GT500 looks so much better. But to each their own, some people will just never be satisfied no matter what. My GT350R doesn't have the most HP, but I don't care cause it's an amazing machine to drive. Just like the GT500 will be as well.
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It's because you're only seeing once piece of the puzzle...
We've known about this car for 4 years. It was officially confirmed a year and a half ago. It was revealed over half a year ago. It still won't be available for another half a year. And for all that waiting, what did we get?
...A car that'll be outhandled by the ZL1 1LE, outpowered by the Redeye, outpriced by both cars, and outenjoyed by its predecessor, the GT350... and out-Everything'd by the Z/28 that we'll likely see within a year of the GT500 hitting dealerships
It's not just that it's not enough power, it's that it's not enough wow factor, especially for how long we had to wait
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760 is a lot of power. Anyone saying otherwise is just being silly. Also were talking STOCK. Who knows how much is on the table........Bloody O you do not even have to other things...I'm sure there will be bigger TB's you could port and polish the blower...smaller pulley...the platform is what matters and how it was done.
My GT350 makes 525 on the corn, 505 on 93 give or take...who cares!??! It's a blast to drive and it puts a smile on my face every time I drive it. That is what matters. If I want more, I can go and add more and still have a solid platform.
I'm happy Ford built the new GT500. It's been since the 60's since both were available at the same time. (No I was not driving then but that is what books are for !) So it's great that I am around and can drive in these times. I cannot wait till they hit the streets, and who knows..maybe in 2022 I'll be ready to buy.
My GT350 makes 525 on the corn, 505 on 93 give or take...who cares!??! It's a blast to drive and it puts a smile on my face every time I drive it. That is what matters. If I want more, I can go and add more and still have a solid platform.
I'm happy Ford built the new GT500. It's been since the 60's since both were available at the same time. (No I was not driving then but that is what books are for !) So it's great that I am around and can drive in these times. I cannot wait till they hit the streets, and who knows..maybe in 2022 I'll be ready to buy.
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So how could you know all of this if you never driven the car ? You are assuming. You are basing your thoughts from opinions. There was a saying my chief use to tell me about assumptions. He always said it..Lol it still brings a smile to m face when I think on it. But yeah....assumptions and opinions.
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What made the previous GT500 so great was that it was SO EXTRA that it grossly outdid all it's competitors, fended them off for about 3 years, and caused the Hellcat to even be DELAYED by 2 years because it was SO much power. THAT was wow factor
What made the GT350 so great was that it was a car with a total focus on the experience... a segment-first flat plane crank V8, completely overhauled suspension, massive brakes with an innovative sliding-pin 2 piece rotor design and monoblock calipers all around with staggered piston bore diameters, and carbon-fiber wheels
And the GT500? A bunch of recycled GT350 parts with slight tweaks, the same engine with a less exotic crank and a supercharger, an outsourced transmission that's rated for 660ft lbs, and a 5 year old design. It's stale and it's not even out yet. And on the one opportunity it had to shine; the horsepower rating; it dropped the ball.
What made the GT350 so great was that it was a car with a total focus on the experience... a segment-first flat plane crank V8, completely overhauled suspension, massive brakes with an innovative sliding-pin 2 piece rotor design and monoblock calipers all around with staggered piston bore diameters, and carbon-fiber wheels
And the GT500? A bunch of recycled GT350 parts with slight tweaks, the same engine with a less exotic crank and a supercharger, an outsourced transmission that's rated for 660ft lbs, and a 5 year old design. It's stale and it's not even out yet. And on the one opportunity it had to shine; the horsepower rating; it dropped the ball.
They aren't assumptions. The Zl1 1LE already outhandles the GT350R, it IS outpowered by the Redeye, and it is less focused on driver experience than the GT350. The ONLY thing you could consider an "assumption" would more accurately be considered speculation, but if you really don't think the Z/28 is going to be a better all around car than the GT500... well, I'm sorry you're so blind in your fanboyism
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