4 Door Mustang Coming soon

[fiveoboy01]

Again I didn't sign anything soooo

So, in one post you make statements about non-disclosures being something you don't mess with, and now you're saying you didn't sign anything.

Which is it?

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[Rhyu]

It's not gonna be a 4 Door Mustang. It'll be the new Ford ThunderCougarFalconBird, coming soon to a dealer near you.

So how much were you thinking of spending on this ThunderCougarFalconBird?

 

[draph]

Lots of grains of salt...As a realist I can see Ford allowing controlled leaks of information to sites like this one to gauge potential consumer reaction on whether to take seriously or not. Given Ford is abandoning all cars except for Mustang, and seeing the next gen Explorer and Lincoln derivative will be rwd based, I also wouldn't be surprised if Ford has been working the engineering trade study to see if the next gen Mustang can share an architecture with a CUV without gaining too much weight....or will they need to stick to massages of the current platform and risk being like the Dodge Challenger is now, but in 10 years? I also wouldn't be surprised if the trade-study is done and the decision has been made, and is the reason for the 2022 date on the next Mustang. Either choice would still have the argument of extending the architecture further to get more bang for the engineering buck. Common sense tells me a "4-door Mustang" would dilute the iconic image of the brand more badly than the fwd Mustang that got turned into the Probe while the Fox body had to go on several more years as the iconic rwd sports couple should stay.

If Ford wants to compete with Audi level branding, it obviously will not be a Ford, but branded as a Lincoln...I'm sure Ford executives are already picturing car magazine covers touting "the return of the hot rod Lincoln". If they go international, perhaps the global version might go with being a Ford...Given the loss of the Chevy SS and BMW now ditching manual transmissions in all but the M3, I think Ford has an opportunity to take a large share of the sports sedan market in the $40K to $60K range if they can share a platform with the Mustang and get EPA certs by extension of every drivetrain combo, which might make an MT sport sedan business case despite a low take rate. With me, loss of a usable back seat when I bought my Mustang was an acceptable compromise; but, if a 4-door V8 MT variant with an adult-usable backseat were available, my Mustang sale would have likely been lost to the 4-door variant, no matter what it was called, and as long as the price wasn't ridiculous (like in the A7 price range). BTW, back in the Lincoln LS days, I was very interested in the MT variant of that car, but no dealer in a 500 mile range had the guts to stock one for a test drive, so I didn't buy. Being only available with the lesser engine was a demerit for me too. If Ford goes that route again, the take rate on the MT sedan will be less than 1%, UNLESS it is an absolute fact the drive train is identical to the Mustang, which will be readily available for an MT test drive at most Ford dealers.

 

[Vernichtung]

Yeah......take away that pony and that "concept" could be one of a thousand other cars. Nothing there screams Mustang to me :(

Agreed. It’s very unremarkable.

 

[Bear376]

I have to agree with those who think that a four door would only be practical as a Lincoln using one of the names like Cougar or Torino or T-bird. I suspect that the next chassis will be adaptive to several levels of electric drive. Most purists will stick with the smallest battery, while the secretary car will use a small high efficiency engine driving a generator and motors powering the wheels.

 

[RaceHorseV8]

Mustang looking SUV, 4 door Mustang. If that's true the Mustang just becomes the name for Fords new corporate identity.

Also a Ford against an A7 and panamera? Guess this Ford guy obviously never sat in these cars if he thinks a Ford can be on par...

Given that the Panamera 4S is $126,705 and goes 0-60 in 3.8 as well as 12.3 in the quarter I don't think the Mustang is giving up much at less than 1/2 the price as fully loaded as you can make it. Send it to Fathouse for twin turbos and for less than $75k you can say a big 'see ya' to the 4S and have a cool $50k in your bank account. You can have the 4S Ace.
https://www.motortrend.com/cars/porsche/panamera/2017/2017-porsche-panamera-first-test-review/

 

[Maggneto]

A Mustang inspired crossover is not a 4 door Mustang, It is a Crossover with design queues taken from a Mustang. I do not see Ford building a sedan, or try to take on Porsche or Audi as that would be idiotic on multiple levels. I know there are reports of a 4 door Mustang but I am pretty sure they mean the Mustang inspired EV crossover and not an actual 4 door sedan. Some shit kicker at the conference was probably looking at sheep porn on his cell phone and heard "4 door" and "Mustang" in the same sentence and now everyone is talking about a 4 door Mustang.

Torino, Cougar, T-bird? Panamera saved Porsche? It must be harvest time in Colorado because some members are stoned silly.

This will be Ford's Tesla Model X and Jag I-Pace fighter, but more affordable I imagine. I personally look forward to what Ford has to offer and don't give 2 shits and a rats ass if the crossover shares design queues with the Mustang. As a matter of fact, It would be stupid not to use the Mustang design as it is obviously a winning design.

 

[JWS]

Con - FUSION!

 

[w3rkn]

Previous gen Edge had the Sport designation which was a TT V6 Ecoboost. Very quick for a crossover. I personally don’t care if it wears a Sport or ST badge. Point being people get up in arms over this like it’s written in stone there will be a 4 door performance sedan given the Mustang designation.

As far as the RS, that car was made for a niche market. I don’t think there’s any comparing it against any segment the proposed 4 door Mustang would fill. Even with the shorter wheelbase, the Focus has a ton of room in the rear compared to the Stang. Real adults can sit back there without being a concortionist or vertically challenged. I just came from having a ST.

I own a 2016 Edge Sport, w/ tune... and the new ST has even more performance. But it is a BIG SUV, not a nimble little car like the RS.

While the Focus RS is a Focus... just a "sporty" version for a niche crowd BECAUSE IT IS SO SMALL. And doesn't offer to much in the way of room, utility or ride quality.



Odd, that you don't believe, or understand why Ford would want a 4-door performance vehicle above the Focus RS, based on the s550.

 

[MyStang]

I do not see Ford building a sedan, or try to take on Porsche or Audi

Lincoln has been on a come back as a Luxury Brand. Now is the time for a 4 door high-performance luxury sedan, to compete with not only Porsche, Audi, BMW, Infinity, and Lexus. With minimal investment using the Mustang platform, Flatrock assembly plant could take on the production volume of a new vehicle. I wouldn't mind seeing a new Lincoln LSC 2 door high-performance luxury coupe.

 

[Fatguy]

A Mustang inspired crossover is not a 4 door Mustang, It is a Crossover with design queues taken from a Mustang. I do not see Ford building a sedan, or try to take on Porsche or Audi as that would be idiotic on multiple levels. I know there are reports of a 4 door Mustang but I am pretty sure they mean the Mustang inspired EV crossover and not an actual 4 door sedan. Some shit kicker at the conference was probably looking at sheep porn on his cell phone and heard "4 door" and "Mustang" in the same sentence and now everyone is talking about a 4 door Mustang.

Torino, Cougar, T-bird? Panamera saved Porsche? It must be harvest time in Colorado because some members are stoned silly.

This will be Ford's Tesla Model X and Jag I-Pace fighter, but more affordable I imagine. I personally look forward to what Ford has to offer and don't give 2 shits and a rats ass if the crossover shares design queues with the Mustang. As a matter of fact, It would be stupid not to use the Mustang design as it is obviously a winning design.

Well if anything comes from all this it is that the EV Mustang is a reality first. That is what that whole reveal really means. And all this talk just tells Ford the hard core Mustang fans are now grudgingly accepting of an EV Mustang - especially along side offerings like a 4 door Mustang...

Ford is spending 11 Billion in EV tech and now it’s time. EV is a certainty reality like it or not. Mustang GTs are now “embarrassed” by EV cars like the Tesla Performance which is little more than a Hyundai Elantra GT in the EV world. The Mustang has to change and change quick. Check out the vid below to see just how badly the Mustang GT loses racing a Model 3 Premium. He literally gets his doors blown off...






So at the Ford development meeting on Monday, promotion and hard dates for the EV Mustang debut will be rubber stamped. And hopefully the Mustang four door idea gets binned permanently!

 

[Maggneto]

Lincoln has been on a come back as a Luxury Brand. Now is the time for a 4 door high-performance luxury sedan, to compete with not only Porsche, Audi, BMW, Infinity, and Lexus. With minimal investment using the Mustang platform, Flatrock assembly plant could take on the production volume of a new vehicle. I wouldn't mind seeing a new Lincoln LSC 2 door high-performance luxury coupe.

Lincoln sales are tanking and the only bright spot is the Navigator. Now is absolutely the worst time for a high performance luxury sedan as these sedans sell in the hundreds per month not thousands per month and will be a financial drain on Ford.

Crossovers are selling so if anything comes out of Ford or Lincoln it better be a crossover and not a sedan. Ford or Lincoln can throw a CUV on a Mustang platform.

 

[w3rkn]

Lincoln has been on a come back as a Luxury Brand. Now is the time for a 4 door high-performance luxury sedan, to compete with not only Porsche, Audi, BMW, Infinity, and Lexus. With minimal investment using the Mustang platform, Flatrock assembly plant could take on the production volume of a new vehicle. I wouldn't mind seeing a new Lincoln LSC 2 door high-performance luxury coupe.

Correct^
Take that photoshop Lincoln and imagine a shooting brake design... and oldschool design, like the old jaguars.

Take the current s550 Mustang GT platform and put Lincoln sheet metal around it. In a 4-door trim w/shooting brake design.

The silhouette of such shooting brake cars & designs are all over the internet by every car manufacturer. And every manufacturer is looking to reclaim the 4-door sport GT performance market. Hackett needs a halo car for his 4-door universe, this might be it.

indulge:

Imagine such designs^^ on a s550/s650 chassis with @ 107" wheelbase. I would opt more for the Edge Sport/ST's bi-turbo v6, over a 8cyl. Turned the engine up to eleven (hefty low end tq) , while sitting on sticky magneride set-up..


Lincoln would not be able to make enough of them.

 

[falcongtho3]

I think the Lincoln approach is a perfect idea for what to do with the platform if there's a hard push for a 4 door version.
While they're at it, do something unique. Like fake woodgrain on the sides. Wide whitewall tires. Wheel covers that look like 'real' wire wheels. How classy would that be?
I'm still waiting for a vinyl roof and rear decklid rack option on the Challenger.

 

[Fatguy]

I think the Lincoln approach is a perfect idea for what to do with the platform if there's a hard push for a 4 door version.
While they're at it, do something unique. Like fake woodgrain on the sides. Wide whitewall tires. Wheel covers that look like 'real' wire wheels. How classy would that be?
I'm still waiting for a vinyl roof and rear decklid rack option on the Challenger.

You forgot the “opera windows” and the rich “corinthian leather” - Yup, I’m in!





And here is the inspiration for the new four door Ecoboost Hybrid Mustang!

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