Canister Oil filter on 2017 GT350R

[Spacebird]

The purpose-built Voodoo oil filter is as high-quality as any filter I've ever seen, and I'm a big dork over on BITOG who likes to dissect filters. The small media area, cardboard endcap canister filters don't give me a whole lot of reason to believe that "new" is "better".

My two cents: The only reason the new style exists is to reduce user error and minimize Ford's liability.

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[AndreiD]

It's in the workshop manual now:

What workshop manual? Where can we find those?

 

[Lurker_350]

Believe it or not, this very scenario happened when I attended. Filter came loose, pressure overcame the uncompressed rubber gasket and suddenly blew past. Oil ended up making contact with the exhaust system and created quite a bit of smoke. Many thought it was on fire. The underside of the car was slathered in oil and was pulled from duty for the day.

Not to hijack - but when did you attend the Track Attack [MENTION=19066]Epiphany[/MENTION]? When I was there last October, one of the prepped Mustang GT's that a guest driver was using had a failure similar to what you described. I was right behind him going into the hairpin on the west track and it was interesting to say the least.

 

[THX 138]

Not to hijack - but when did you attend the Track Attack [MENTION=19066]Epiphany[/MENTION]? When I was there last October, one of the prepped Mustang GT's that a guest driver was using had a failure similar to what you described. I was right behind him going into the hairpin on the west track and it was interesting to say the least.

Yeah, and I was right behind you! :eyebulge:

 

[Epiphany]

Not to hijack - but when did you attend the Track Attack [MENTION=19066]Epiphany[/MENTION]? When I was there last October, one of the prepped Mustang GT's that a guest driver was using had a failure similar to what you described. I was right behind him going into the hairpin on the west track and it was interesting to say the least.

I was there at the end of August, around the 28th IIRC.

 

[Lexluther]

Thats a dumbass design...

With the spin-on you can poke a hole at the bottom with a screwdriver and let it drain before removing so you don't make a complete mess. Other car makers that have canister style pointing downward have a check valve and tool to drain the housing before removal. Others have it point up so it drains back into the engine so there no mess.

 

[Lexluther]

For you fancy pants there is a no mess tool for the spin-on filter if punching a hole at the bottom of the filter is to archaic



pepboys has it for 10bucks

https://www.pepboys.com/product/details/914116/00781

 

[HISSMAN]

Looks skinny

 

[Voodooo]

Thats a dumbass design...

With the spin-on you can poke a hole at the bottom with a screwdriver and let it drain before removing so you don't make a complete mess. Other car makers that have canister style pointing downward have a check valve and tool to drain the housing before removal. Others have it point up so it drains back into the engine so there no mess.

Although I agree with you.
The problem with a filter housing drain is that it allows for another potential failure. Most idiots can't even figure out how to torque a spin on oil filter. Remember all the bickering about "why does the manual say not to apply oil to the filter gasket" this was a thread topic awhile back because you can't teach an old dog new tricks.
Because without the oil on the gasket it reduces the chance of the filter working loose.
I always clean and dry the filter housing surface with brake clean before installing the oil filter.

 

[Houston Kid]

For you fancy pants there is a no mess tool for the spin-on filter if punching a hole at the bottom of the filter is to archaic



pepboys has it for 10bucks

https://www.pepboys.com/product/details/914116/00781

I like.

 

[JT1]

Although I agree with you.
The problem with a filter housing drain is that it allows for another potential failure. Most idiots can't even figure out how to torque a spin on oil filter. Remember all the bickering about "why does the manual say not to apply oil to the filter gasket" this was a thread topic awhile back because you can't teach an old dog new tricks.
Because without the oil on the gasket it reduces the chance of the filter working loose.
I always clean and dry the filter housing surface with brake clean before installing the oil filter.

Geez, it would never to have occurred to me to read the owners manual before an oil change, AND it would never had occurred to me NOT to run a bead on the gasket.

Gotta love these forums, one GT350 engine saved. And no this post is not sarcasm. One old dog, one new trick learned.

 

[Bossing]

Not to hijack - but when did you attend the Track Attack [MENTION=19066]Epiphany[/MENTION]? When I was there last October, one of the prepped Mustang GT's that a guest driver was using had a failure similar to what you described. I was right behind him going into the hairpin on the west track and it was interesting to say the least.

Yeah, and I was right behind you! :eyebulge:

I remember that. I was there too.... iirc leading the pack on the West track () and after coming around on the next lap I felt squirelly entering Demon-Devil-Diablo sector. :eyebulge:

It took a good 20mins for that area of the track to get cleaned up.... we were all just waiting in the garages conversing while the next group's session was delayed.

 

[kairojya]

I bought supplies for my first oil change (on my 2017 car) this weekend. Thanks all that have posted part numbers and torque spec of the plastic housing! The parts guy kept insisting that my car uses the spin on filter, I had to show him the plastic canister on my car outside. Then he tried to tell me my car only needed 8.5 qts.... thankfully the other parts guy overheard and was more helpful.

 

[johnny1]

I don't know where you guys are getting not to put oil on the oil filter gasket. The replacement supplement book that came with my oil filter wrench for my 2017 says (2)"wipe the engine seal surface and threads with a clean rag" (3)"apply oil to the new oil filter seal" Mine isn't an R so don't know if that would make any kind of difference. wouldn't think so. Voodooo I suggest you read the supplement manual again before you put out this kind of info and some one takes your word and doesn't read there supplement book and find out your statement isn't true.

 

[JT1]

I don't know where you guys are getting not to put oil on the oil filter gasket. The replacement supplement book that came with my oil filter wrench for my 2017 says (2)"wipe the engine seal surface and threads with a clean rag" (3)"apply oil to the new oil filter seal" Mine isn't an R so don't know if that would make any kind of difference. wouldn't think so.

I saw that too when I looked in mine.

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