PMAS Intake Systems from UPR Products. TUNE AND NO TUNE INTAKES

[DivineStrike]

Interested in this, I may get this in October after a little 3 month trip. However in the future I will probably upgrade the intake mani to the Gt350 mani unless the aftermarket companies dragging their feet with their products actually produce good results. Will this fit the GT350 manifold and throttle body?

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[dev1360]

Installed today. Logging it with my tuner tomorrow and going to dyno it back to back with stock intake next week.

Couple things to note..these screws are way too short. And the head slips into the hole in the coolant reservoir. Tried the factory bolts, but different thread. The coupler from the TB to intake tubing was really tight, took a lot of stretching. Maybe I'm just a ***** lol



It's LOUD.

 

[Desolate]

Are the supplied bolts metric or standard?

Now you need a rematch with Sean's SS. That thing runs awesome.Lol

 

[dev1360]

Are the supplied bolts metric or standard?

Now you need a rematch with Sean's SS. That thing runs awesome.Lol

The problem was thread pitch. Didn't match up. There's enough thread there to hold it, maybe it was designed that way. But the head of the socket head bolt pulled into the coolant tank holes and not much thread engagement on the supplied nuts.

 

[PMAS]

The problem was thread pitch. Didn't match up. There's enough thread there to hold it, maybe it was designed that way. But the head of the socket head bolt pulled into the coolant tank holes and not much thread engagement on the supplied nuts.

The bolts are 1/4 20. Those look like the bolts for the 11-14 kit. They might have got packaged by mistake. The 15+ are longer and have washers. I will have them open all the cold air kits tomorrow and double check.

I apologize for the mixup.

 

[15dib]

That's how mine came, with those screws. I didn't use the bracket I just left mine where it was.

 

[dev1360]

The bolts are 1/4 20. Those look like the bolts for the 11-14 kit. They might have got packaged by mistake. The 15+ are longer and have washers. I will have them open all the cold air kits tomorrow and double check.

I apologize for the mixup.

Ah, okay. Thank you.

 

[Optimum Performance]

We raised the price on our site to MSRP so we are not competing with our dealers.

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[Poppacapp]

70-100* temps you're pulling 1.5* of timing. It's up to 5* of timing at 130* intake temps IIRC.

With Lund Flex tune, I was told it starts to pull at 150 degrees.. about 4 to 5 degrees.

 

[dev1360]

With Lund Flex tune, I was told it starts to pull at 150 degrees.. about 4 to 5 degrees.

Someone posted the stock IAT table and cleared it up for us.

 

[Gibbo205]

Putting the MAF in a plastic tube, using a sealed air box with a lid and having a sealed fresh air duct are the best ways to limit heat soak and keep actual IATs down. ECM doesn't pull timing until 150* IATs though at which point it pulls out around 4-5 degrees at wide open.

But the ECM also adds when temperatures are lower and octane is better. So it's not just about timing being pulled it might not be adding as much as it could due to higher temperatures

 

[PMAS]

Guys, I hate to point it out but in 1986 ford put fuel injection in cars. 30 years ago. People always did things to get maximum flow for horsepower and the tuners always knew the intake temps. It wasn't until a few years ago when ford added a temp gauge on the dash that all of a sudden, intake temps are the most important part to making power with a mustang. That just isn't the case and it never has been. This is the biggest reason I hate the term "cold air intake". It's a marketing term started for Honda guys. The "cold" has very little to do with how much power an intake makes.

The stock 11-16 airbox is no more of a "cold air intake" than the fox body airbox was. If anything the fox was better.

 

[MyFirst5.0]

Installed today. Logging it with my tuner tomorrow and going to dyno it back to back with stock intake next week.

Couple things to note..these screws are way too short. And the head slips into the hole in the coolant reservoir. Tried the factory bolts, but different thread. The coupler from the TB to intake tubing was really tight, took a lot of stretching. Maybe I'm just a ***** lol



It's LOUD.

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[dev1360]

Photobucket is having issues. This forum really needs an app again.

 

[Gibbo205]

Guys, I hate to point it out but in 1986 ford put fuel injection in cars. 30 years ago. People always did things to get maximum flow for horsepower and the tuners always knew the intake temps. It wasn't until a few years ago when ford added a temp gauge on the dash that all of a sudden, intake temps are the most important part to making power with a mustang. That just isn't the case and it never has been. This is the biggest reason I hate the term "cold air intake". It's a marketing term started for Honda guys. The "cold" has very little to do with how much power an intake makes.

The stock 11-16 airbox is no more of a "cold air intake" than the fox body airbox was. If anything the fox was better.

So explain why on a cold day say 0c a car makes more horsepower on a dyno say compared to a 30c day? You can even easily tell on the butt dyno how much faster a car feels when intake temps are lower due to colder air.

Cold air is denser and gives more power.
Colder air allows the ECM to advance more ignition for more power.

Maybe I miss read your post but it's scientific fact that engines make more power when intake air is colder. You seem to be contradicting this?

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