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How will GT500 compare to 8 Series BMW?

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BmacIL said:
It should be, but heavy + powerful + RWD is tough. If it goes better than 3.3 I'll be surprised (that's what the Z06 does).
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Well 3.3 is not 3.6. That’s a big difference. I mean better tires (I hope), improved suspension, some other trickery, it better rip off a low 3 second run.

That heavy comment has me a bit worried though. First time I’ve heard you reference the word heavy. Are you thinking it’s going over your previous estimate?
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What would be absolutely a win would be for Ford to invest in Lincoln Sport by taking a detuned GT500 chassis and make a Lincoln Mark revival in AWD platform.
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Cadillac is listening...

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Cadillac is listening...

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They redesigned the Camaro and slapped a Cadillac badge on it? Side profile looks very similar.

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Apples to oranges. Both will be great cars in their own right. A Demon to GT500 is the comparison I'm looking forward too. GM will go back to comparing Mustangs to vette's since nothing in the Camaro inventory will touch a GT500
 
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Apples to oranges. Both will be great cars in their own right. A Demon to GT500 is the comparison I'm looking forward too. GM will go back to comparing Mustangs to vette's since nothing in the Camaro inventory will touch a GT500
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By the time the 500 hits lots the 2020 Redeye will be the only dodge it will compete against. The demon is an ‘18 model. And it will lose to a demon.
 
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I've yet to see a demon run the numbers Dodge claims in stock trim with an average Joe owner behind the wheel. I don't like to bench race but if the GT500 is ~3700 lbs with 700-750 HP and a Dual Clutch trans, it will have no problem beating a demon or red eye.

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By the time the 500 hits lots the 2020 Redeye will be the only dodge it will compete against. The demon is an ‘18 model. And it will lose to a demon.
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I've yet to see a demon run the numbers Dodge claims in stock trim with an average Joe owner behind the wheel. I don't like to bench race but if the GT500 is ~3700 lbs with 700-750 HP and a Dual Clutch trans, it will have no problem beating a demon or red eye.
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NOT going to weigh 3700ish. I and most everyone here wish, but ain’t happening. From everything posted here, I’d be happy if it’s under 3950.
 

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How do they compare? I'd expect:
- GT500: Fast & Furious with Ford fit&finish
- 850i : Fast, isolated, with soft leather everywhere. but Boring.

They are not made for the same group of people.
 

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IMDNS said:
How do they compare? I'd expect:
- GT500: Fast & Furious with Ford fit&finish
- 850i : Fast, isolated, with soft leather everywhere. but Boring.

They are not made for the same group of people.
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The BMW will be fast. The GT500 will definitely make tire smoke. Whether the GT500 is fast, especially 0-60, is yet to be seen. Heavy RWD platform with a lot of weight in the front could be difficult to launch well. Real world street performance I expect the BMW is going to be faster. Maybe if Ford could have put the DCT in the rear to improve weight distribution...

I agree the BMW will not be a white knuckle ride. With a DCT the GT500 might not be very exciting to drive, unless it's overpowering the rear tires.
 
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BMW's M-Division is a joke now.... it is run by sales & marketing.
 
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The BMW will be fast. The GT500 will definitely make tire smoke. Whether the GT500 is fast, especially 0-60, is yet to be seen. Heavy RWD platform with a lot of weight in the front could be difficult to launch well. Real world street performance I expect the BMW is going to be faster. Maybe if Ford could have put the DCT in the rear to improve weight distribution...

I agree the BMW will not be a white knuckle ride. With a DCT the GT500 might not be very exciting to drive, unless it's overpowering the rear tires.
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Traction at 5MPH is what BMW's nannies are all about and what takes away from their cars. They are no fun and just meant for spec sheet...
 
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Traction at 5MPH is what BMW's nannies are all about and what takes away from their cars. They are no fun and just meant for spec sheet...
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Good to know. I drove an M4 and it seemed fun to me, but not fun enough to buy. The sound of a straight 6 was a big part of the "no fun" equation for me.

Can you turn off the nannies on the BMWs? I have driven some Porsches and I got a similar feeling to what you are describing - too hooked up is boring. It sucks just as much having a car that is fast at the strip or at triple digits but tends to BBQ the rear tires during a launch on the street, though.
 
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Good to know. I drove an M4 and it seemed fun to me, but not fun enough to buy. The sound of a straight 6 was a big part of the "no fun" equation for me.

Can you turn off the nannies on the BMWs? I have driven some Porsches and I got a similar feeling to what you are describing - too hooked up is boring. It sucks just as much having a car that is fast at the strip or at triple digits but tends to BBQ the rear tires during a launch on the street, though.
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No, the nannies are built into their e-diff...
So it is always trying to guess what you are doing an adjusting... instead of being consistent & predictable...
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