Wonder if 350 value will go "up" when GT500 is released?

5.0 435 said:

The 13/14 GT 500 were very track worthy cars with the track pack and SVT performance package. They had all three coolers and proper drive shaft for high speeds. Do a little homework on those cars and you will see just how track worthy they are. Maybe a little heavy up front but that’s about it.

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Eh, compromised dynamics at both ends covered up by a monster engine. Capable in times only, IMO.

Zombo said:

48,000 S550 GT350s? I think that number is way off, maybe more like 20,000, including 2018.

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I would suggest that the ~48,000 Shelby's that he is referring to would be the 8 year run of the GT500 cars from 2007 to 2014.

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PP0001 said:

I would suggest that the ~48,000 Shelby's that he is referring to would be the 8 year run of the GT500 cars from 2007 to 2014.

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IIRC, there were over 100K GT500s built.

I never end realized they made that many GT500s. I remember when they came back in 2007, Dealers were asking $20k+ ADM because it was suppose to be a "limited run of special cars". Lol@ how that turned out.

Bladex10 said:

I never end realized they made that many GT500s. I remember when they came back in 2007, Dealers were asking $20k+ ADM because it was suppose to be a "limited run of special cars". Lol@ how that turned out.

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I never knew the GT500 numbers were as high as they were as I really had no interest in them when they were being produced (I was a Corvette Z06 guy back in 2007).

Makes me wonder why Ford has kept the R numbers so low, I know at first there was a production bottleneck on the CF wheels, perhaps that's still the case?

Colleton said:

IIRC, there were over 100K GT500s built.

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Go back and check your numbers. 48K is all they made in the GT500. :cheers:
When they came out in 2007 a lot of people believed there was only a two year run. That helped create the high ADMs.

5.0 435 said:

The 13/14 GT 500 were very track worthy cars with the track pack and SVT performance package. They had all three coolers and proper drive shaft for high speeds. Do a little homework on those cars and you will see just how track worthy they are. Maybe a little heavy up front but that’s about it.

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Yes, I concur. I tracked mine and took it to Autocross events. It was great, you just had to play nice with the throttle, and it was a very communicative chassis. Once I swapped the horrible Goodyear tires for Michelins, it transformed the car. I loved it, I am still sorry I sold it.
If I had enough space and money, I would have kept it, and get the 350 also.

mvfjet said:

Used GT350's with no warranty or about to expire warranty will be low 30's or high 20's once the S650 is officially revealed in 2 years. It'll be waaaay obsolete by then.

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There's a bottom on these cars, for sure - considering that they will be relevant and excellent track machines for years to come. With the price of new cars continuing to just go up, I don't see a track pack GT350 selling in the 20s....for a LONG time - definitely not in the next 2 years. If that's the case, I'm going to pick up another one or two then, to track the hell out of.

SO I guess I'm saying that I think you're completely out of your mind.

PS - NADA Clean retail on a 2014 Mustang GT with PP shows @$25k.
2014 GT500 still NADAs in the 40s with 40k miles.

Good luck with sub 30k GT350s.

mvfjet said:

Used GT350's with no warranty or about to expire warranty will be low 30's or high 20's once the S650 is officially revealed in 2 years. It'll be waaaay obsolete by then.

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Quite simply, no.

5.0 435 said:

The 13/14 GT 500 were very track worthy cars with the track pack and SVT performance package. They had all three coolers and proper drive shaft for high speeds. Do a little homework on those cars and you will see just how track worthy they are. Maybe a little heavy up front but that’s about it.

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Eh.......they need fluid, brake lines, and brake pads. Then they're ready.

5.0 435 said:

Go back and check your numbers. 48K is all they made in the GT500. :cheers:
When they came out in 2007 a lot of people believed there was only a two year run. That helped create the high ADMs.

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Yes, many of my car buddies paid a $25K ADM for the 2007 cars as the new GT500 was to be a very limited production car but when they built 10,847 of them for the 2007MY there were a lot of unhappy campers out there.

Fortunately I did not get caught up in all of the 2007 hype and purchased a 2008 convertible and then in 2009 purchased a coupe and convertible both with option 54R which allowed for Red OTT stripes on my White convertible as the only way to get OTT stripes on a GT500 convertible for the first 3 MY's was to order a Black or White car and then select option 54R in order to get OTT stripes.

If you see a 2007 to 2009 GT500 convertible with OTT stripes on it and the car is not either White or Black you can bet that the stripes were not original from the factory.

Interesting to note that the lowest production numbers for the 8 MY's was 2009 when Ford only produced 3559 cars in total.

Well the market took a huge beating and the economy tagged along making for some great buying opportunities for 2009 MY cars. I bought a 2009 GT500 in November of 2008 and it was much easier to negotiate than for the two previous years.

Dominator said:

People this isn’t the 1960-70s.
The “ONLY” reason why the original muscle cars have any value is because they died off because of the EPA and gas shortage in the early 70s.
Today we dont have that problem “yet”. And the vehicles keep getting better and better. Look at the cobra R’s of the early, and mid 90s. They are not hot ticket sellers. Why would you buy a car that was hot in its time, for top dollar when you can have new and improved for the same or less money?
Why buy a boss Laguna Seca when a new mustang GT is less or equal money and faster and better?
Look at the 2000 cobra R, a low mile original is $50-$75k. 385 hp. Awesome 18 years ago, lame today. For the same money you can buy a new GT350/R and are worlds ahead in all aspects. Until the day comes that history repeats itself, car values will not climb. As I always say.....
A cars value is only worth what the seller is willing to sell it for, and what the buyer is willing to buy it for.

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With all due respect if best performance and best price is your primary focus for purchasing a HP automobile why would anyone pay $55K for a fully loaded 2018 Mustang GT coming with 10 speed auto, GT PP, Magneride, Recaro's, active exhaust etc. when for only another ~$15K more you could buy a 2018 Camaro ZL1 1LE whereby the performance factor of a Mustang GT is not even in the same league as the Camaro?

For many of us it is not just all about performance numbers and price but also much about the soul, spirit and driving experience of the car and that is why Muscle Cars from the 60's up until 1971 still command such exorbitant pricing.

Having owned a number of 2012 Laguna Seca's and accumulated a lot of seat time and miles in them there is no way that I would settle for a 2018 Mustang GT no matter how fast and impressive these new Mustang GT's are. There is something very special about hearing the side exhaust outside my drivers window especially when shifting an LS at or around 7500 RPM.

Just as the new GT350R's and the '65 GT350 cars have an intangible quality/driving experience like very few others so does the Laguna Seca Boss cars and a price cannot be put on those driving experiences.

As you can tell I am a big fan of 2 seat Mustangs (old and new) including the 2000 Cobra R some of which are not the fastest cars out there but certainly some of the coolest driving experiences to be had!!

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