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This review will probably butt hurt a few muscle/pony car debate team entrants on here....
The fact is that it IS a muscle car to Euro buyers. Always has been, always will be. Nobody knows what a Pony Car is on this side of the Atlantic.
The fact is that it IS a muscle car to Euro buyers. Always has been, always will be. Nobody knows what a Pony Car is on this side of the Atlantic.
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40000 Euros for the car and 68000euro co2 tax.. wow. we are so screwed in the stupid green and left ruled EU. They call it CO2 Tax. Funny when you know that there is only 0,038% CO2 in the Air.
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I don’t see how increasing taxes do much but line politicians pockets. If they want to decrease pollution, they should have a strict limit else the vehicle isn’t allowed.
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Defintely not pro taxes and I've got a decent sized carbon footprint, but the logic is clear. Higher taxes for certain sized cars (or engine sizes) reduce the number of those cars on the road. It also reduces pollution, at least from cars. Norway and Denmark are perfect examples. There is no correlation between a politician's pay and taxes.
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Here's the thing why not outright ban them if environmentalism is that important to them? The current method merely allows the rich to drive what they want. While I'm unaware of how politicians in all the Europeans states are elected (I do know EU politicians are unelected) nor how their pay is determined, but if its anything like the US, politicians basically set their own income with approval of the president.
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Sorry guys, but the new 8-series is a visual successor of the 2011 6-series.
Also it's pretty well known that the S550 was designed with the 2012 Aston Martin Vantage in mind, since the designer of the S550 is related to the designer of the Vantage. And I think you can ask anybody what they think about S550 compared to 5th gen and I think most people will argue that it looks more european, not that european cars now start to look like Mustangs... ;)
If you see any more visual similarities then congratulations for finding out how coupe rooflines look like - Even the 2012 A5 Sportsback has the same sidelines as the S550 :shrug:
Also it's pretty well known that the S550 was designed with the 2012 Aston Martin Vantage in mind, since the designer of the S550 is related to the designer of the Vantage. And I think you can ask anybody what they think about S550 compared to 5th gen and I think most people will argue that it looks more european, not that european cars now start to look like Mustangs... ;)
If you see any more visual similarities then congratulations for finding out how coupe rooflines look like - Even the 2012 A5 Sportsback has the same sidelines as the S550 :shrug:
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eh I think most people would consider "pony cars" a sub category of the "muscle car" class.
I mean just wikipedia muscle cars and you'll find mustangs and camaros listed. Or better yet, go on caranddriver.com and you'll find mustangs and camaros specifically in the "muscle car" category.
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He liked automatics when he was 70+.
I have not seen any evidence he liked them when he was younger and relatively fit.
Caballus
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Not expressing a political opinion, just expressing facts. Higher taxes based on engine size decreases the use of those cars and has nothing to do with politians' pay. V8 Mustangs fall into that category. Germany has a linear tax based on engine size. Some countries have non-linear systems, which means the tax increases exponentially relative to displacement and HP (Belgium, NL, etc). As for outright bans, some cities ban private cars during certain hours. Rome was one of the first, because exhaust was destroying old buildings (Colloseum, etc). So, again, politics aside, the point was "Mustang love" in Germany and other places in Europe is affected by import prices and taxes, yet the roads are still full of them. By the way, the "rich drive what they want" scheme applies everywhere, or 1/2 the people on this forum would be on the Lambo forum...
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