2018 gauge cluster retrofit

It always shows the gear the trans is currently in.

So now that all issues seem to be cleared, I‘ve got another question:
Do you guys think it‘s possible to swap a 15-17 analog cluster (auto) into a 18 model originally equipped with a digital cluster?
I‘m seeing a few issues here, but feel free to correct me
- different number of gears; can the old cluster display 10 gears?
- different drive modes
- different menues/buttons
- communication with sccm

Background: In Germany we don‘t get to choose between the analog or digital cluster, in a 2018 model the digital comes standard. But some people would prefer an analog one

Mr.Mustang said:

So now that all issues seem to be cleared, I‘ve got another question:
Do you guys think it‘s possible to swap a 15-17 analog cluster (auto) into a 18 model originally equipped with a digital cluster?
I‘m seeing a few issues here, but feel free to correct me
- different number of gears; can the old cluster display 10 gears?
- different drive modes
- different menues/buttons
- communication with sccm

Background: In Germany we don‘t get to choose between the analog or digital cluster, in a 2018 model the digital comes standard. But some people would prefer an analog one

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Interesting.

I actually think it shouldn’t be a problem. Addressing your points and I don’t have an auto so correct me if I say something wrong here.
- different number of gears shouldn’t matter as the analog gauge cluster doesn’t display gear number, right? It won’t stop the 10 speed from working properly.
- same drive modes if your referring to normal, sport, track, and rain mode and all that should be just asbuilt data.
- menus would be lost obviously along with other functions (nav, song info, digital center gauges, etc) but the menus in the analog cluster should have no issue programming with 15-17 asbuilt.
- the SCCM ‘might’ need to be changed.....not sure because when we put the 18 SCCM in for our digital upgrade our buttons worked the same on the steering wheel until we changed asbuilt so programming alone will maybe make yours work.

You’ll probably have to change to the older steering wheel buttons and if you have the heated steering wheel you shouldn’t loose that either.

Let us know what you do and I’m sure others will chime in with opinions.

Wow, thanks for your fast reply!

In fact, when shifting manually, the analog cluster displays the gear number at the bottom of its little display but you‘re of course right about the trans still working correctly

Doesn‘t the 18 model have additional drive modes, like drag strip or something else?

So you‘re trying to say that the menu in the analog cluster hasn‘t changed from 15-17 to 18?

Well, before trying anything I will have to find an owner of a 18 model crazy enough to let me rip apart his brand new ride

Lol, no problem....caught me at a moment I can type some.

Yeah not too familiar with the auto’s and what they display so didn’t want to put out bad info.

The 18 cluster does have drag strip mode, if the car is capable, which mine has. It’s basically Launch Control that was available with the 15-17’s that we’re capable of having it from the factory based on the model car you got.
For me I had to go into a menu to activate Launch Control to make it work, which I don’t use, and since I’ve added the digital cluster it is now one of the ‘drive modes’ which makes it easier to activate and works if I want it to as I tested the rpm limit. Basically what I’m saying is if you have an 18 with Drag Strip Mode, you’ll still have it switching to a 15-17 analog cluster but it will be a different process to activate and won’t be displayed as ‘drag strip mode’ but rather ‘launch control’ in a sub menu.

Menus have completely changed from 15-17 cluster to the full digital cluster. I haven’t even seen what an 18 analog cluster does but it looks basically the same as the 15-17’s. It may have some extra features but I have NO idea.

Good luck on the friends new car dismantle.

Is there any one place where all known knowledge, instructions, parts, etc on this swap is? It's a long thread to read.

withanx said:

Is there any one place where all known knowledge, instructions, parts, etc on this swap is? It's a long thread to read.

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Try this one.

https://www.mustang6g.com/forums/showthread.php?t=99275

withanx said:

Is there any one place where all known knowledge, instructions, parts, etc on this swap is? It's a long thread to read.

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The sticky at the top of this section :shrug:

Couple questions - I have a 2016 GT350R. Is there any reason to think that with the correct modules and forscan, that this wouldn't 100% work for me? I wonder if we can adjust the redline indicator to reflect the GT350? Also, what does this stuff weigh, compared to the non-LCD setup?..I'm guessing pretty close.

stanglife said:

Couple questions - I have a 2016 GT350R. Is there any reason to think that with the correct modules and forscan, that this wouldn't 100% work for me? I wonder if we can adjust the redline indicator to reflect the GT350? Also, what does this stuff weigh, compared to the non-LCD setup?..I'm guessing pretty close.

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Can’t see why this wouldn’t work for you for any reason. There seems to be only two redline indicators with the highest one starting at 7400 rpm. What I think you will loose is anything past 8000 rpm because the tach completely stops at that point. The digital counter may go higher but I’m not testing that.
Weight is a non-issue and you remove some plastic behind the cluster.

breeves002 said:

I googled around and found this video:

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They put 350 gauge faces on a regular cluster lul

Mr.Mustang said:

So now that all issues seem to be cleared, I‘ve got another question:
Do you guys think it‘s possible to swap a 15-17 analog cluster (auto) into a 18 model originally equipped with a digital cluster?
I‘m seeing a few issues here, but feel free to correct me
- different number of gears; can the old cluster display 10 gears?
- different drive modes
- different menues/buttons
- communication with sccm

Background: In Germany we don‘t get to choose between the analog or digital cluster, in a 2018 model the digital comes standard. But some people would prefer an analog one

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Just swap in an 18 analogue cluster instead. You just have to change steering wheel buttons then. SCCM is the same just different as built data for the buttons.

Glad to see this is working out for everyone. After issues with Tasca and waiting on parts I decided to put this on the back burner for a bit and spend the money on other interior stuff. Hopefully by the time I get around it getting parts will be less of a headache.

stanglife said:

Couple questions - I have a 2016 GT350R. Is there any reason to think that with the correct modules and forscan, that this wouldn't 100% work for me? I wonder if we can adjust the redline indicator to reflect the GT350? Also, what does this stuff weigh, compared to the non-LCD setup?..I'm guessing pretty close.

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Well, here's something to keep in mind.

People who have either done GT350 cluster swaps into other Mustangs or have flashed the GT350 firmware onto their cluster lose their drive modes. Apparently, the drive modes are treated differently between the cars. The toggle on the FCIM (center stack) stops working. It must be still looking for a signal from the SCCM (steering column.)

The IPC (cluster) has a lot to do with whether or not the drive modes work and are available. I know from doing a base radio to Sync 3 swap that you have to change the IPC as-built in order to enable the drive mode toggle on the premium FCIM.

Being that you're in a 350, the modes are on the steering wheel. Given that you need to change the module in the steering wheel (SCCM) will need to change for the cluster swap, you're almost certainly going to loose access to your drive modes.

You may be able to swap in a regular premium FCIM (center stack) that has the drive mode toggle, but I would assume that it still wouldn't work. The GT350 has drive modes that differ from the regular cars, so the all-digital IPC probably doesn't understand those.

Fine, if you want to trade your GT350 for my 17, it has the digital cluster already for you. Even better, it has the GT350 steering wheel and push start button, so you you won't even be able to tell the difference! You know, except for the hundred less horsepower and all that....
All joking aside, unless they put one in a future GT350 or GT500, my opinion is keep the 200 MPH analog speedo you have, removing it I feel would subtract from the value of your car.