Ford GT becomes the fastest gas powered car to ever lap the Nurburgring!

[MAGS1]

I’ll just add one more thought. I don’t give a flying f&$! if Ford used a track only car to set the record for a gas engine car around the Ring. The top 2 cars are also race cars. Some of the cars that the Mk IV passed are race cars. You can’t go buy a 919 Hybrid Evo. The Mk IV is an actual production car, Ford/Multimatic made 67 of them. If you have the cash, you can buy one. It’s a cool feat for an American OEM, that’s all I’m saying. Yes, it was in the same category as the ZR1X, so it’s the top car in the category. Yes they are also wildly different cars, I don’t think anyone is denying that.

Yes, the ZR1 is faster than the GTD. It should be, it has 200+ more horsepower. Ford appears to have made some tweaks to the GTD. We knew the Whipple was coming, Ford said as much. Assuming the other tweaks will show up on customer cars as well and they set a better time officially, they will have beat GM with a street car too.

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[9secondko]

I’ll just add one more thought. I don’t give a flying f&$! if Ford used a track only car to set the record for a gas engine car around the Ring. The top 2 cars are also race cars. Some of the cars that the Mk IV passed are race cars. You can’t go buy a 919 Hybrid Evo. The Mk IV is an actual production car, Ford/Multimatic made 67 of them. If you have the cash, you can buy one. It’s a cool feat for an American OEM, that’s all I’m saying. Yes, it was in the same category as the ZR1X, so it’s the top car in the category. Yes they are also wildly different cars, I don’t think anyone is denying that.

Yes, the ZR1 is faster than the GTD. It should be, it has 200+ more horsepower. Ford appears to have made some tweaks to the GTD. We knew the Whipple was coming, Ford said as much. Assuming the other tweaks will show up on customer cars as well and they set a better time officially, they will have beat GM with a street car too.

you’ve already made it clear you dont care abput the distinction Ford themselves hsvr already made.

the mark 4 shows multimatic snf to some extent ford as well can build the worlds fastest ICE car around the ring when they use cars so radical, they can only be legally driven in the racetrack.

Mercedes and Porsche have shown they can build the fastest ICE cars around the Nurburgring which are in a different class - thst can be legally driven in the roads. GM and Ford are not as wuick around tgr Ring, but they are closing in. But GM is faster than ford so far. S as NG no it shouldn’t be. The ford costs twice as much. Should be more powerful.

we talk about 0-60 and quarter mile times with our street legal production mustsngs snf corvettes. But you put a top fuel dragster in the conversation and it destroys those.

that’s the same thing happening here. It’s a totally separate and apart issue. The mk4 run doesn’t compare to the street legal production cars. It’s two different categories.

the GTD and ZR1 are fighting for the American and soon to be light heavyweight title. The mark 4 is fighting for the world heavyweight title.

completely different categories.

 

[gimmie11s]

It's less impressive to the common man when a race car sets a new time. Who really cares? That's kind of what we expect from race cars, regardless of brand -- to continue dropping the times to new lows.

Street cars that the citizen consumer can buy competing in the top 10 all time is insane (ZR1X) impressive to me.

I love me some coyote-based powertrains (I have a 1k hp TT coyote lol) but Ford needs to get their shit together and dump the belt-driven blower (Whipple GTD is LOL full-retard) on their premium on-track offerings.

 

[Ewheels]

Should Ford have used this car as the basis for their GTD IMSA car? Every time I watch a race, I just think the Mustang GTD is aerodynamically inferior to the other competitors. Granted, I am not an aero expert, but it doesn't pass the eyeball test.

I'm sure it was more of a marketing ploy. The underdog or home town hero Mustang can compete in IMSA. I suppose that saying "win on Sunday, sell on Monday" is applicable here as well. Not many are buying GT's but a lot of people could buy a Mustang.

Also, BOP evens everything out. I'm sure the Mustang GT3 runs a smaller restrictor plate than the other cars.

 

[9secondko]

I'm sure it was more of a marketing ploy. The underdog or home town hero Mustang can compete in IMSA. I suppose that saying "win on Sunday, sell on Monday" is applicable here as well. Not many are buying GT's but a lot of people could buy a Mustang.

Also, BOP evens everything out. I'm sure the Mustang GT3 runs a smaller restrictor plate than the other cars.

absolurely it was. And they bet on the fact that a sucker is born every minute, not knowing the difference between street and race cars.

 

[9secondko]

It's less impressive to the common man when a race car sets a new time. Who really cares? That's kind of what we expect from race cars, regardless of brand -- to continue dropping the times to new lows.

Street cars that the citizen consumer can buy competing in the top 10 all time is insane (ZR1X) impressive to me.

I love me some coyote-based powertrains (I have a 1k hp TT coyote lol) but Ford needs to get their shit together and dump the belt-driven blower (Whipple GTD is LOL full-retard) on their premium on-track offerings.

yep. We’ve been over this. Heat soak is part of the package with superchargers. Properly placed, shielded, and ventilated Twin turbos can keep going and going and going. They’ll get crazy hot too, but they won’t bake the entire engine, intake air, and Leech so much power just to drive the thing.

Ford has TT tech down. Maybe better than anyone. If ever there was a time to show it off, this was it.

 

[gimmie11s]

yep. We’ve been over this. Heat soak is part of the package with superchargers. Properly placed, shielded, and ventilated Twin turbos can keep going and going and going. They’ll get crazy hot too, but they won’t bake the entire engine, intake air, and Leech so much power just to drive the thing.

Ford has TT tech down. Maybe better than anyone. If ever there was a time to show it off, this was it.

Well, that's so true on their TT tech. Im kind of confused why it hasn't made it to a v8 yet.

 

[9secondko]

Well, that's so true on their TT tech. Im kind of confused why it hasn't made it to a v8 yet.

The usual reasons. Nothing to do with automotive pros or cons.

they are being beaten to the inch though and everyone else is catching up.

they’re being forced into a corner.

with GM releasing the first of their more powerful new v8s in the grand sport and dodge betting big on new hem I’d, we will see it within the next 5 years.

would love to see an all new 5.8 from ford that starts at 550hp naturally aspirated and a TT version over 1100.

 

[PP0001]

It's less impressive to the common man when a race car sets a new time. Who really cares? That's kind of what we expect from race cars, regardless of brand -- to continue dropping the times to new lows.

Street cars that the citizen consumer can buy competing in the top 10 all time is insane (ZR1X) impressive to me.

I love me some coyote-based powertrains (I have a 1k hp TT coyote lol) but Ford needs to get their shit together and dump the belt-driven blower (Whipple GTD is LOL full-retard) on their premium on-track offerings.

Regarding the extreme 2023 Ford GT Mk IV supercar, love the technology of the entire vehicle including the larger 3.8-liter TT engine.

Yes all 67 examples will be sold for $1.7 million dollars and of course do not come with a VIN but nevertheless an impressive outing and outstanding results from Larry Holt and his Multimatic Team at The Ring.

Suggest that the 3.5-liter TT 660 HP Ford GT that accelerates from 0-60 in 3 seconds and has a top speed of 216 MPG is certainly impressive for a street going automobile which the Blue Oval Brand launched for the 2017 MY.

Also suggest that Ford may have a successor to the recent 2nd Gen Ford GT and if so it will be interesting to see what direction that they may go from a powertrain standpoint?

As far as Ford getting their shit together with respect to high performance street/Pony cars especially when looking at the last 15 years, what brand of automobile has provided more bang for the buck and better overall balanced examples than Ford when taking into consideration Mustang models such as the 2012/2013 Mustang Boss 302/LS, 2015-2020 Mustang Shelby GT350/R, 2020-2022 Mustang Shelby GT500/CFTP and the more recent 2025 Mustang GTD?

Having said that I am also not a big fan of multi engine coolers, heat soak and increased curb weight especially when located on the front-end V the likes of the Gen I Ford GT models.

 

[9secondko]

Regarding the extreme 2023 Ford GT Mk IV supercar, love the technology of the entire vehicle including the larger 3.8-liter TT engine.

Yes all 67 examples will be sold for $1.7 million dollars and of course do not come with a VIN but nevertheless an impressive outing and outstanding results from Larry Holt and his Multimatic Team at The Ring.

Suggest that the 3.5-liter TT 660 HP Ford GT that accelerates from 0-60 in 3 seconds and has a top speed of 216 MPG is certainly impressive for a street going automobile which the Blue Oval Brand launched for the 2017 MY.

Also suggest that Ford may have a successor to the recent 2nd Gen Ford GT and if so it will be interesting to see what direction that they may go from a powertrain standpoint?

As far as Ford getting their shit together with respect to high performance street/Pony cars especially when looking at the last 15 years, what brand of automobile has provided more bang for the buck and better overall balanced examples than Ford when taking into consideration Mustang models such as the 2012/2013 Mustang Boss 302/LS, 2015-2020 Mustang Shelby GT350/R, 2020-2022 Mustang Shelby GT500/CFTP and the more recent 2025 Mustang GTD?

Having said that I am also not a big fan of multi engine coolers, heat soak and increased curb weight especially when located on the front-end V the likes of the Gen I Ford GT models.

Yet the street legal GT gets beat by the GTD and ZR1 at the Ring. And loses to the ZR1 0-60. Perhaps loses to the GTd too.

This is the difference street legal versus track only vehicles make and why they don't belong in the same conversation.

 

[robvas]

Yes, the ZR1 is faster than the GTD. It should be, it has 200+ more horsepower.

How come nobody says "of course the GTD is faster than the Porsche, it has 300+ more horsepower"

 

[Bikeman315]

Now that I’ve read all of the comments all I can say is “nuts”. This exercise is not about car vs. car. This is about car versus track. It’s about the fastest time, period. The rest of it is about us. A bunch of keyboard warriors that will argue about anything. These are unbelievable motor vehicles that have a blue oval and bow tie. Just for shits and giggles how about we recognize them for what they are. The pinnacle of American ingenuity and manufacturing perfection. Why can’t this just be enough?

 

[MAGS1]

How come nobody says "of course the GTD is faster than the Porsche, it has 300+ more horsepower"

Because the Porsche is 900lbs lighter too

 

[robvas]

Easier to make power than a light car I guess

 

[Cobra Jet]

The whole point being - FORD set the current record with a GAS POWERED VEHICLE. It doesn’t matter if it was a “race car” or a “production car” or a “prototype” or ANY other type of manufactured vehicle . . .

Ford did break the record, period.

I mean and I think it’s already been said by others - if one REALLY wants to get “technical” about it - the Ford GT Mk IV that broke the record, albeit a “race car” is available to the buying public as the Ford GT. Granted the public version ISN’T a true balls to the wall “race car” like the Ford Mk IV GT that just broke the record - but again, I’m not going to spend time going deeper down the “technical in the weeds” path.

I mean, as an analogy to compare:
NASCAR cars although “race cars” have to be a Manufacturer’s production vehicle that is either mass produced or can be produced in a certain quantity available to the buying public. No, people can’t go into a showroom and buy a NASCAR and drive it on the street - but if you really think about it, the Ford Mk IV GT “race car” has its similar public production car too - the Ford GT…

Are there rules as to what type of vehicle can be driven at the NURBURGRING or which are allowed to break records? Just because the Ford Mk IV GT is a “race car” it can’t be one that breaks a track record?? C’mon now, LMAO.

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