Look what I discovered in my 22! 🤨

[theslerg]

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[2022 Mach 1]

Looks good

 

[theslerg]

From pictures I'm seeing online. There is an insert inside this 22 unit. 18 thru 21 do not have the insert inside the tube.

Looks good

 

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[theslerg]

 

[noac]

21 cover going on, I cut one of the top tabs with a blade, was moving it back and forth slowly to loosen it up and it suddenly came off, a nice clean break. I have a 22 GT.

 

[VelR5.0GT]

I also noticed the honeycomb yesterday but I guess didn't pay too much attention that it was an insert and not built in. I speculated the honeycomb was to straighten the airflow in a more laminar fashion since the carbon trap may be altering it now. So thinking about it, the '22 MAF area is slightly (1-2mm) smaller as well. Wondering if Ford is restricting the '22-23s in order to show a sizeable "gain" in the '24s.
I was thinking about taking advantage of the vacuum reading ability. This should help in figuring out if these additions/changes are an actual restriction. Going WOT and keeping a log while deleting the carbon trap, then the housing for it and finally the insert. Got to keep an eye on the AFR as well but doubt the changes are sizeable enough to throw the ECM off to compensate for fueling changes.

 

[young at heart]

I also noticed the honeycomb yesterday but I guess didn't pay too much attention that it was an insert and not built in. I speculated the honeycomb was to straighten the airflow in a more laminar fashion since the carbon trap may be altering it now. So thinking about it, the '22 MAF area is slightly (1-2mm) smaller as well. Wondering if Ford is restricting the '22-23s in order to show a sizeable "gain" in the '24s.
I was thinking about taking advantage of the vacuum reading ability. This should help in figuring out if these additions/changes are an actual restriction. Going WOT and keeping a log while deleting the carbon trap, then the housing for it and finally the insert. Got to keep an eye on the AFR as well but doubt the changes are sizeable enough to throw the ECM off to compensate for fueling changes.

If all these things are true (and I’m not saying they aren’t) then it has taken Ford a LOT more effort than originally reported to scare off a measly 10 hp. So far there are what, 6-7 changes being talked about when in reality any one of them alone would have probably done the trick. Why would they need all the cascading changes? And IMO it wouldn’t be logical for them to go to this much trouble (and expense) just to make the 2024 bump seem more impressive.

I realize that I may be whistling past the graveyard here, and yes until what they really did or didn’t do is sussed out it’s gonna be talked about on and on. That’s fair and I’m right in there. But I will say that if I had never heard about this issue I’d almost bet that motor for motor my 22 pulls even harder than my 20. And yeah, I’m pretty sure I’d notice. Guys chase smaller gains than this all the time.

As soon as there’s a way to monetize the results somebody will strap a couple cars to the dyno and find out for sure. There are too many variables involved and the cars are so close anyway there’s no reliable way to find out at the strip.

 

[AvalancheSVT]

you guys can thank shit like this for making cars more and more expensive. imagine how many millions went into making this change.

 

[theslerg]

I also noticed the honeycomb yesterday but I guess didn't pay too much attention that it was an insert and not built in. I speculated the honeycomb was to straighten the airflow in a more laminar fashion since the carbon trap may be altering it now. So thinking about it, the '22 MAF area is slightly (1-2mm) smaller as well. Wondering if Ford is restricting the '22-23s in order to show a sizeable "gain" in the '24s.
I was thinking about taking advantage of the vacuum reading ability. This should help in figuring out if these additions/changes are an actual restriction. Going WOT and keeping a log while deleting the carbon trap, then the housing for it and finally the insert. Got to keep an eye on the AFR as well but doubt the changes are sizeable enough to throw the ECM off to compensate for fueling changes.

If you do that, let me know! I'm currently tuned.

 

[young at heart]

If you do that, let me know! I'm currently tuned.

Wait your 22 is tuned? Please tell us about it and what difference the tune has made.

A 22 doesn’t show in your profile or sig but obviously you have one.

 

[2022 Mach 1]

Track times and syno sheets are tough to find for the 22. There are tons on the 21. I've been hoping to go to the strip but woth the heat at 100 plus for the past several weeks it would be a waste.

Has anyone 1/4 or dynod theirs or has links to see someone who has?

 

[young at heart]

Track times and syno sheets are tough to find for the 22. There are tons on the 21. I've been hoping to go to the strip but woth the heat at 100 plus for the past several weeks it would be a waste.

Has anyone 1/4 or dynod theirs or has links to see someone who has?

You‘re exactly right and I pointed this out a short while back. Most “testers” just use 2021 figures.

Can’t wait to see what you discover.

 

[theslerg]

Yes, sir. Ran a 12.50 @ 114 stock. Incredibly bad wheel hop.

Did a subframe lockout kit and E85 tune. Ram 12.00 @ 117.5. I'm disappointed actually.

 

[2022 Mach 1]

Yes, sir. Ran a 12.50 @ 114 stock. Incredibly bad wheel hop.

Did a subframe lockout kit and E85 tune. Ram 12.00 @ 117.5. I'm disappointed actually.

That's right you did. Can you post your slips again? What tires and pressures of the runs as well

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